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old fart 01-21-2014 02:14 PM

should i get a phoenix or save for a smith or?
 
i am looking to get a 22lr handgun, i'm narrowed it down at my local shop to these.new phoenix arms hp22 $150 otd, smith 22a like new $225 otd, new heritage rough rider 22lr only $165 otd. what would ya'll get?, also i've heard of frame cracks on the phoenix, is this true and if so how bad? thanks

SRK97 01-21-2014 03:17 PM

If I where you I would save up for a ruger or smith & Wesson. I'm sure there's nothing wrong with phoenix but in the long run I think a ruger or smith & wesson will hold up better to the test of time.

txpossum 01-21-2014 03:20 PM

I'd get a Ruger MK I, II, or III. Or a Ruger Single Six.

Ez2b 01-21-2014 03:20 PM

+1
........

Ez

therewolf 01-21-2014 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRK97 (Post 1488095)
If I where you I would save up for a ruger or smith & Wesson. I'm sure there's nothing wrong with phoenix but in the long run I think a ruger or smith & wesson will hold up better to the test of time.

If you are truly looking for the Apex of 22LR accuracy and performance,

IMHO, it comes down to the S&W 41, a high-end Hi-Standard 102 or 104,

or one of the Ruger MK I,II, or IIIs with the 6-3/4" bull barrels. The Ruger

22/45 is simply another angle of grip, preferred by many.


My personal pick of these is the MK II slab-side in Stainless Steel.


IMHO, since this is such a vital cornerstone to any gun collection, you should

save your money, and get a good 'un on the first try. This particular firearm is

a bad place for backtracking, and regrets.

txpossum 01-21-2014 03:55 PM

As I have lamented here before, I traded off my Smith Model 41 years ago in an attack of ignorance. Would love to have another one, but the last one I saw for sale around here was going for $1000.

ScottA 01-21-2014 04:01 PM

Hold out for the S&W, or look at Ruger as many others have suggested.

SRK97 01-21-2014 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by therewolf (Post 1488104)
If you are truly looking for the Apex of 22LR accuracy and performance,

IMHO, it comes down to the S&W 41, a high-end Hi-Standard 102 or 104,

or one of the Ruger MK I,II, or IIIs with the 6-3/4" bull barrels. The Ruger

22/45 is simply another angle of grip, preferred by many.


My personal pick of these is the MK II slab-side in Stainless Steel.


IMHO, since this is such a vital cornerstone to any gun collection, you should

save your money, and get a good 'un on the first try. This particular firearm is

a bad place for backtracking, and regrets.

Forgot tge browning buckmark, extremely accurate, its my competition gun and I have not had any issues shooting cheap Remington golden bullets or the very dirty Aguila.

phideaux 01-21-2014 05:32 PM

You said "narrowed down to these "

I have all 3 of those,
The phoenix is a plinker ,and not a great one,
The Heritage is a plinker, and not a very good one.
The S&W 21A is a good gun, mine is flawless, accurate, and I take squirrels with it. Good gun.

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...psafea4cb3.jpg

Jim

SSGN_Doc 01-21-2014 05:57 PM

I never advise anyone to buy a Phoenix. The old company went down in flames and never should have risen from the ashes.


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