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Old 04-09-2012, 12:51 PM   #21
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are you saying you run standard pressure ball ammo for defensive loads? That's just eFFing retarded.
No, eFFing retarded is thinking FMJ won't kill you. I never said JHP won't kill you or that it's not more affective at doing so. Your opinion is noted and dismissed.
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Well your opinion is wrong. FMJ's are in the military because the wound is easier to fix. FMJ's are the reason 9mm gets a bad rap, if a vital is not hit there is a much better chance at trauma to surrounding tissue and arteries using a +p hollow point. So still fight like you train just change your ammo before you fight and you stand a better chance.
"Your opinion is wrong." WTS is that? It's just an opinion.

They're like armpits, everybody has them, and they all stink.

Maybe you'd care to elaborate why states like New Jersey have

outlawed Defensive Ammunition.

My opinion is the police want and need violent criminals in

NJ to justify the need for a draconian police state...
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Willfully armed, I know that match(with hollow points) are being issued with far more regularity, and I believe mk318 is also hp ammo. HOWEVER I also remember there being one instance where a JAG advisor freaked out over Match. Ammo with hollowpoint bullet use.
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"Your opinion is wrong." WTS is that? It's just an opinion.

They're like armpits, everybody has them, and they all stink.

Maybe you'd care to elaborate why states like New Jersey have

outlawed Defensive Ammunition.

My opinion is the police want and need violent criminals in

NJ to justify the need for a draconian police state...

Ok , my opinion is that the world is flat!........Everyone has the right to an opinion but some are wrong and his was wrong. I donít care what NJ is doing it is still wrong just like the opinion that the world is flat but thanks for trying to educate me on opinions, I donít need a lesson in political correctivness.
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Ok , my opinion is that the world is flat!........Everyone has the right to an opinion but some are wrong and his was wrong. I don’t care what NJ is doing it is still wrong just like the opinion that the world is flat but thanks for trying to educate me on opinions, I don’t need a lesson in political correctivness.
Lol, my opinion is not wrong. FMJ WILL KILL YOU. I'm not arguing the effectiveness of JHP over FMJ. I never said FMJ is better than JHP. I chose to defend myself with the ammo I am most practiced and proficient with. Is that wrong? Only in YOUR opinion.
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Lol, my opinion is not wrong. FMJ WILL KILL YOU. I'm not arguing the effectiveness of JHP over FMJ. I never said FMJ is better than JHP. I chose to defend myself with the ammo I am most practiced and proficient with. Is that wrong? Only in YOUR opinion.
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sorry, my mistake
No sweat.

I am pretty much done with this forum anyway. I have never seen a more hostile (to newcomers or individual opinion) forum.
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No, eFFing retarded is thinking FMJ won't kill you. I never said JHP won't kill you or that it's not more affective at doing so. Your opinion is noted and dismissed.
You can loosen a 3/4" nut with a pair of pliers, or you can use the tool that was specifically designed to do it ... 3/4" wrench.

Fmj vs HP analogy.


Ever notice that police and alphabet agencies don't use fmj for duty ammo? Why is that?
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You can loosen a 3/4" nut with a pair of pliers, or you can use the tool that was specifically designed to do it ... 3/4" wrench.

Fmj vs HP analogy.

Ever notice that police and alphabet agencies don't use fmj for duty ammo? Why is that?
Call me crazy, but pretty much every firearm/bullet was designed to kill.

That being said, I choose to use the same ammo I am practiced and proficient with for self defense. I don't use crap surplus ammo, but I am not gonna use $30 per 50rd JHP for practice purposes. The fact is JHP or FMJ are both fully capable of inflicting mortal wounds. JHP is definitely the more specialized at doing this. I never said it wasn't.

So to take your analogy one step further. It like using a 3/4" Snap-On vs. using a 3/4" Craftsman.
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