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09-21-2010, 03:00 AM
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hk vs sw
Compare the controls -- I particularly like the decock/safety level on the HK. Also, as a pure psych matter, I associate HK historically with automatic innovation and Smith with revolver innovation -- an HK seems somehow cooler. However, if you are into built-in crimson trace lasers, HK seems to be far behind Smith.
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09-21-2010, 01:41 PM
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Robo, I just dug out 2 USP's and neither would allow the mag to be inserted backwards, irregardless how much "Stress" I could put under them...
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I have not tried it on the compact models, but the full size guns will definately do it
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11-11-2010, 07:59 AM
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Robo, I have no idea what Gen. USP you are talking about.
I took 2 USPs out of the safe, 1 standard .45 acp, and an Elite .45 acp and neither would accept a mag "backwards".
If you encountered this, 1 thing that I would do is send it back, such a thing should not be tolerated.
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11-11-2010, 11:41 AM
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As always, I would echo what was said by others, try both out, both are quality guns, see what fits and feels right for you.
That said, I have rented the HK, liked it, but wasn't for me....... I do own 2 M&P's the 9c and the 9Pro.....love both, the 9c is my winter carry and the 9Pro is more of a range gun, which BTW I absolutely LOVE to shoot, has a little lighter trigger and a longer barrel which make it a dream at the range
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11-11-2010, 03:41 PM
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The H&K is .8in wider, 2oz heavier, .1 inches longer but slightly thinner.
H&k ~ 750 from gunbroker listings
M&P 579.99 at bass pro (cheaper online)
I own a M&P9c and HAD a glock 26 
I never tried a H&K i'm sure I would like it but ignorance is bliss and I'm $250 richer.
Last edited by wb_carpenter; 11-11-2010 at 03:43 PM.
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11-12-2010, 03:00 AM
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Both are fine pistols so it will be hard to go wrong. I have shot both but a big fan of the M&P. I carry a full size M&P45 and have bought two of the M&P9C, both I ended up giving to people I love because it fit them well and something I know they will carry and practice with ofen.
The M&P IMHO is a quality pistol that fits the need of the owner well, is easy to operate and preforms as expected everytime. It's a pistol I would trust my life with.
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11-12-2010, 01:51 PM
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Get the one that will fit and work for your intended use.
Truth be told, they are both fine weapons.
Money aside I would take the HK, for the purely nonsensical reason that I think it looks better (of course opinions vary).
Plus, I prefer the old school double action design, but thats really nit picking.
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11-16-2010, 01:13 AM
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H&K all the way!!!
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11-16-2010, 02:32 AM
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Once you have an H&K you'll never go back...
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I carry a HKUSP9C everyday. Goes bang, even when full of lint.
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11-16-2010, 03:51 AM
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Looks like an old thread and sure the OP already bought something but I would say, if you have the money: H&K.
But before jumping on the USP, try a P30, or P30L/LS. Just hold it and you'll see why...
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