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Blue2Green316 03-02-2010 04:05 PM

S&W frame confusion
 
Hey, folks,

I'm just getting back into shooting and collecting, and I'm looking into getting my first 357 (I know, I can't believe I never bought one before, either).

I haven't been paying enough attention of late and just wanting to get a bearing on the new (to me, anyway) numbers and frame designations. This is what I thought was the deal, from smallest to largest (I may be wrong, feel free to correct me):

J-frame - all the 5-shot 38's, simple enough (right?)
K-frame - the 10, the 65 and 66 (38 or 357, depending)
L-frame - only one I know by name is the 686 (38/357), maybe a few others I'm not aware of.
N-frame - 357 (the 27), 41mag, 44mag, maybe others

Now, 2 questions:

#1: I remember seeing this model 610/620 advertised as the 'replacement' to the 'tradition of the' either the K-frame or the 686, or the 65/66 specifically, I forget which exactly. Is the 610 or 620 (again, I get confused easily. My Dell laptops also are a 610 and a 620, go fig :D), are these K-frames or L-frames? Or what?

#2: I bought a S&W 625 45ACP from a shipmate back in 2002. I haven't even looked at it in about 3 years and it's been in my storage unit for nearly as long. Which frame would that be? I'm guessing maybe it's an L-frame. It's large enough for 6 shots, but didn't seem oversized for my hand. Just curious if someone can confirm for me.

Again, I apologize if these seem like stupid questions, but I'm way rusty and just getting back into the scene. (I start my AT tomorrow, so I won't be checking the thread or replying for a few days)

Thanks. :)

NGIB 03-02-2010 04:18 PM

The 625 is a N frame. The 610 is a 10mm/.40 S&W and it's an N frame as well. The 620 is the update for the 66 and is a K/L frame.

Small frame: J
Medium: K/L
Large N

utf59 03-02-2010 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NGIB (Post 239762)
Small frame: J
Medium: K/L
Large N

And extra-large = X frame

If you visit the revolver portion of the S&W site (Category - Revolvers) you can look at current models by frame. That won't help with models that aren't currently in production, but it's a start.

Dzscubie 03-02-2010 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue2Green316 (Post 239749)
#2: I bought a S&W 625 45ACP from a shipmate back in 2002. I haven't even looked at it in about 3 years and it's been in my storage unit for nearly as long. Which frame would that be? I'm guessing maybe it's an L-frame. It's large enough for 6 shots, but didn't seem oversized for my hand. Just curious if someone can confirm for me.

Thanks. :)

If you want to get rid of that usless ole hunk of steel I would be more than happy to take it off your hands. :rolleyes: :D

Seriously, if you ever want to part with that 625 please give me first shot at it. Oh, and welcome to the forum. :D

Wambli 03-03-2010 12:26 AM

From the bottom right clockwise, all .357 mags
Model 19 K Frame
Model 686 L Frame
Model 28 N frame
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...i/DSC05207.jpg

My 610 (not in this picture) is a 10mm 5" N frame. All guns starting with a 6 in the model number are Stainless.

SgtSam 03-03-2010 10:57 PM

Wambli, if I'm not mistaken, a Model 19 is blue. The stainless version is a Model 66. I have an early Model 66 and it's stainless. But, then again, I could be wrong.

SgtSam

Wambli 03-04-2010 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SgtSam (Post 240740)
Wambli, if I'm not mistaken, a Model 19 is blue. The stainless version is a Model 66. I have an early Model 66 and it's stainless. But, then again, I could be wrong.

SgtSam

Hi SgtSam,
You would be correct if it was a stainless gun. But my gun is a factory Nickle finish Model 19.

SgtSam 03-04-2010 02:39 AM

Sorry about that.:o I couldn't tell. It looked like a highly polished stainless.:) So, once again, I stand corrected. Nice collection, by the way!

SgtSam

Wambli 03-04-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SgtSam (Post 240877)
Sorry about that.:o I couldn't tell. It looked like a highly polished stainless.:) So, once again, I stand corrected. Nice collection, by the way!

SgtSam

Thanks! Actually that was pretty sharp observation in your part. Many folks have never see a nickel 19 and in the pic it does look like polished stainless.

Good eye. ;)

Blue2Green316 03-04-2010 05:42 PM

Thanks for all the response, folks.

I did remember the designations for most models (barring the new(est) X-frame as the 500SW MAG is fairly new to me).

I was leaning toward a 66/65 or 686 before I tried re-educating myself and got confused looking through an online S&W catalog, where I found that the 66/65's are apparently no longer being made. I'm actually still leaning toward the 686. (Too bad most of those 3"/fixed sight "Transit Authority" models were destroyed (Thanks, Bill! :mad: ). That one would be just about ideal for my tastes.)


Dzscubie: As far as the 625, I don't have plans to get rid of it anytime soon, but I will keep you in mind, since you asked. ;)

(Just curious, is this model particularly special?)


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