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Old 03-14-2014, 12:30 PM   #31
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I never found a pistol style or design that I did not shoot a little and get use to and enjoy shooting . I swap handguns at a public range I visit a lot just to get a chance to shoot something I may never get a chance to shot again. Like a HK P7 squeeze to cocker pistols . Even got to shoot a guys mauser broom handle some years back. Odd but very cool. Heck I like them all I think. Just takes a little trigger time for something different to feel natural to you. Titanium added. to aluminum? Learn something everyday.


Back from the and the remaining 300 rounds fired. No issues to worry about. I did find it easier to shot tighter groups than 2 days ago. 10 groups of 2 to 2 1/2" and 10 yards stand free is very possible. NO redness of the hand from slide bit or battering. No wear on any aluminum grip frame. Just a good buy in a pistol that should make a good CC choice.

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Saw one at a gun show in Springfield Mo today. At 500.00 dollars I figured it was a little high priced since everything there was a bit over priced. I wonder if they are going to come out in 40 Smith????

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Saw one at a gun show in Springfield Mo today. At 500.00 dollars I figured it was a little high priced since everything there was a bit over priced. I wonder if they are going to come out in 40 Smith????
$500 is gouging, plain and simple. The MSRP is only $380, real world prices should be closer to $350. They plan to release it in .40. If you look closely, you can see that it's designed to take a larger diameter barrel with very little retooling.
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$500 is gouging, plain and simple. The MSRP is only $380, real world prices should be closer to $350. They plan to release it in .40. If you look closely, you can see that it's designed to take a larger diameter barrel with very little retooling.
If you can find a Remington R51 in this area it would be priced at $500 plus. When you tell the clerk what the MSRP is on that pistol, he will look you right in the eye and swear he can't get the gun for $380.

I have been shopping for a Glock 19 recently. One LGS had the Gen 3 Glock 19 priced at $599. I noticed their advertisement that they do FFL's for $25. I asked them for their FFL information. They said they don't do transfers from Buds Gun Shop. Buds is a distributor that has a retail shop. I went down the road to set up a FFL transfer for $30. I ended up getting a gen 4 for $540. There must be some stupid people in Raleigh. Glock sets the retail price on their pistols. Any shop who sells Glocks below that price will not get any more Glocks to sell. At $540 a shop is making close to a $200 profit on the pistol. LEO discount on a G19 is around $350. No one is losing money on a LEO discount.
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And you think that's Gouging Guys? How about $1100 for a $429 list price Gun( Kel-Tec PMR 30). These are the same people selling 50ct. Boxes of Thunderbolts for $12 apice. That's a $120 for a 500 rd. Brick. And people who don't know just pay? He also Sold a Mossberg 715 22 caliber AR, A $260-$280 gun at the most, for $399 to a 68 yr. Old lady ranch owner who's husband just died, full well knowing she doesn't know the Price of 22's much less the Gun that shoots them.

If I had some Real $$(I'm talking like about 300K, I'd open a shop. Just to show them the way a real shop....




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Johnd_Deere To bad your so far across the state NC. That's gun shop to avoid . No reason to go there. If your on the western half of the state you could buy a R51 for 357.28 +tax he has a pile of glocks that run from 500 to the higher prices of the 34, 35 and 41 for 660. Now I know, thanks to you why he does not sell them cheaper than he does. Everything else has a lower price from advertised retail. Did not know glock try's to price fix them.

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Johnd_Deere To bad your so far across the state NC. That's gun shop to avoid . No reason to go there. If your on the western half of the state you could buy a R51 for 357.28 +tax he has a pile of glocks that run from 500 to the higher prices of the 34, 35 and 41 for 660. Now I know, thanks to you why he does not sell them cheaper than he does. Everything else has a lower price from advertised retail. Did not know glock try's to price fix them.
I have a R51 on order for $360 +tax. It always pays to shop around. The gun
shop I used to teach with had a G19gen4 he would sell me for $700?!? I
purchased it for just under $600 from another shop. Some people just are not
worth your time...
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That sure is the truth. I'm waiting on a glock 41 now. Missed the one our general store had by one day so now I gota wait again ,,,,,, But there a good gun shop so I'll wait. Not sure any one self has that one anyhow.

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$500 is gouging, plain and simple. The MSRP is only $380, real world prices should be closer to $350. They plan to release it in .40. If you look closely, you can see that it's designed to take a larger diameter barrel with very little retooling.
Actually msrp is $420 according to Remington. Just picked one up at scheels in springfield IL for $349
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Actually msrp is $420 according to Remington. Just picked one up at scheels in springfield IL for $349
Well then they've updated it with a higher price within the last two weeks. And actually, without having shot it yet, so I haven't formed the best opinion on it yet, the new price seems a little more reasonable to me. There are other guns in the same class running well into the $600 dollar range, and my initial impressions of the Remington are more satisfying than the sigs and Walthers. We shall see if I'm still that satisfied after putting about 200 down the pipe.
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