[Polygon]

For me it's not so much about confidence. It's about avoiding collateral damage.

[therewolf]

Originally Posted by Polygon

For me it's not so much about confidence. It's about avoiding collateral damage.

Because everybody who gets

attacked by a BG is surrounded by dozens of other people.


Strange, but when I've been victimized, I was all alone,

in deserted surroundings. If I'd had a gun at the time, I could have emptied the mag

in all directions, and never had a chance of hitting anyone.

[HOSSFLY]

Originally Posted by ellwood45c

IMHO the thing that matters most is reliabilty,accuracy, then penetration. When i first started carring my childhood adopted uncle was a county sheriff, he took me and my guns we shot all kinds of ammo to see what worked best. That is what i still do today, i believe more what i see from my guns than what the manufactor tells me. There is so many good choices now than 20 years ago, i just think the guys who are serrious in self defense will always make a good choice.

Pretty much agree---
But with todays ammo is there really a bad choice?

[gollygee]

Originally Posted by HOSSFLY

Pretty much agree---
But with todays ammo is there really a bad choice?

Not so much "bad", just good & gooder.

[BallisticSurgeon]

Originally Posted by gollygee

Not so much "bad", just good & gooder.

I have to agree with this.

[axxe55]

Originally Posted by HOSSFLY

Pretty much agree---
But with todays ammo is there really a bad choice?

Hossfly, i think if the ammo feeds well in the gun, is of a JHP style from a well known maker, i think it should work fine. i also have to agree with what some others have said, SD ammo choices and quality are much better now than even several years ago.

[therewolf]

Originally Posted by axxe55

Hossfly, i think if the ammo feeds well in the gun, is of a JHP style from a well known maker, i think it should work fine. i also have to agree with what some others have said, SD ammo choices and quality are much better now than even several years ago.

Amen to that. My most difficult challenge finding SD ammo

is finding a box without inflammatory claims all over it in

blazing contrast colors...

[HOSSFLY]

Originally Posted by gollygee

Not so much "bad", just good & gooder.

Agree on that-
My main concern has been 1911's (had a few "picky" ones) but the ones I have now feed JHP's & that concern is no longer a issue

[levelcross]

Originally Posted by HOSSFLY

Pretty much agree---
But with todays ammo is there really a bad choice?

The only bad choices that I have seen lately are what the gun won't feed.

My Kimber doesn't like corbon at all, doesn't like to extract it. My Glock eats anything I have stuffed into it. The wife's Bersa is flawless with Hornady CD but she runs ball ammo in it, Babygirl runs Ranger JHP's in her M&P, and I have yet to find anything my Ruger SP101 didn't like.

I like JHP's in everything but the Bersa .380 as I worry with under penetration. When we get a new gun we all shoot it with several different brands, loads and both ball and JHP's to make sure it runs what is going to be carried in it. If it aint reliable, it is a safe queen or for sale.

Too many people have the Brand/grain brain freeze going on. I really don't care who makes it as long as it is dependable and plentiful.

[j4454]

YouTube tnoutdoors9 his channel does a lot of ballistic test and will show you the differences. After a little research I run 230 grain +p either Hornady or Speer. +p+ 9mm frederal also are very impressive. I run those in my m&p. But if you have ammo questions check out that channel.