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freetobefree 03-01-2013 05:47 PM

I've heard a lot of people say you should practice with the ammo you carry for self defense what's your thoughts on this ?

Personally I carry critical defense but I'm not going to take it out for targets... I think same gr and a few defense rnds is good to shoot

danf_fl 03-01-2013 06:33 PM

I try to "rotate" my carry ammo.

That is when I shoot my carry stuff. Your weight and power factor the same thinking is okay, as long as, the bullets are the same.
Practice with hard ball and carry hollow points if you feel that hollow points feed as good as hard ball.

kytowboater 03-01-2013 06:36 PM

I shoot ball ammo and carry hp. I have run 40 or so rounds of carry ammo and a few hundred generic hps through my CCDW to know there is no issue.

jpattersonnh 03-01-2013 08:00 PM

It is not about the ammo for practice/targets. It is about trigger time and having everything about your handgun being second nature. Sd shootings ussually happen within 7 yards. A 2" poi is not going to make a difference.
I shoot quite a bit of cast lead. It gives me lots of trigger time. I shoot 2 1911's, P6, P230, in 4 different calibers. Shooting each as much as possible makes everything automatic, no thought needed. Now switching to a revolver take some thought. But at the range it only takes a few rounds for the muscle memory to come back.

chloeshooter 03-01-2013 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jpattersonnh (Post 1159300)
It is not about the ammo for practice/targets. It is about trigger time and having everything about your handgun being second nature. Sd shootings ussually happen within 7 yards. A 2" poi is not going to make a difference.
I shoot quite a bit of cast lead. It gives me lots of trigger time. I shoot 2 1911's, P6, P230, in 4 different calibers. Shooting each as much as possible makes everything automatic, no thought needed. Now switching to a revolver take some thought. But at the range it only takes a few rounds for the muscle memory to come back.

what he said ^^^^^^^

StainlessSteel215 03-01-2013 08:40 PM

For me its simple, I ensure that every one of my guns feeds and cycles HP ammo. I dont shoot it often because its expensive, but I do run it on occasion to ensure feeding reliability. Otherwise, its ball ammo for the range which nowadays isnt very often due to ammo shortages.

drvsafe 03-01-2013 09:47 PM

I think it's good a good practice to shoot your SD ammo, not necessarily regularly but you should be at the very least familiar with how your firearm performs with that particular ammo. I make sure to fire the same exact ammo I load in my firearm when I carry, but I mostly shoot FMJ at the range.

gearhead396 03-01-2013 10:05 PM

Whenever I get a new carry gun I always run all kinds of ammo they usually have for that caliber because I want to know before hand if a particular brand will fail. Even with my hollow points I shoot at least two boxes just to be sure ya it hurts the wallet but better safe than sorry! Right now I use either hornady critical defense or customs or the Speer gold dot in my sr40c.

locutus 03-02-2013 05:32 AM

My carry amo is +P+. So I have to hand load to get the same velocity and recoil with FMJ bullets.

But I am a 100 percent advocate of training with what you carry (or equivalent)

bluez 03-02-2013 05:36 AM

Practicing w/ your carry round is great in principle its certainly a good habit to be in and thats seems to make common sense.

it's also conventional wisdom and of course many police departments have accepted that principle.


But allow me to challenge this a little:

Ponder this:

When the adrenaline rush comes, even a guy who only practiced with 38 spc will rarely notice the extra recoil from .357 Mag.

But many folks practicing with .357 mag may develop a fear of firing the gun which will mess with their skillset.
Much better to practice with 38 spc, which is cheaper less punishing and will not teach bad habits of fearing the gun.

I am a 220 lbs weight lifter but even for me a full training day with .357 mag <hurts> and I will mix it up 2/3rds to 3/4 38spc , then finish with .357 mag for the "feel"

Another example is say an AR15.

The 5.56 has pretty mild recoil
the 223 even more so.

I practice with .223 for cost reasons but load up with 5.56 in my ready stick.

I dont think I will learn poor habits this way and will save alittle money in the proccess.

Also getting a 22LR upper is no unreasonable IMO either since the recoil is small even in the standard 5.56 so little difference in "feel" to throw u off.
a 22LR upper however will enable many to spend more rounds practicing their stance and aim, which is invaluable.


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