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Old 04-21-2012, 05:47 PM   #21
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Well, opinions vary on this - As i mentioned i had a couple of J-Point reflex sights (NOT a scope) - I think I was quicker to pick up the target with them but it took practice - I really dont think a red dot scope is near as fast to pick up I guess the key word is practice with whatever you have
I agree, I also think the reflex is easier for me to shoot with both eyes open although I dont have any on a pistol , I have one on a shotgun of all things and love it lol
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Like some of the guys I guess if that is what he wants it's OK.
However, to me a P-220 which I have one myself, is a tactical and self defense type weapon and not a target pistol. Using it for self defense with a scope on it would be very cumbersome regarding concealment as well as in the defense roll would slow the weapons response down for the fact of wanting and overly dependent upon sighting through the scope. We are taught to do a flash sight picture by looking over the top of the slide on the pistol for rapid target acquisition. The delay of response to utilize the scope could be fatal and a serious issue if using the weapon to defend ones self. For target type shooting I guess it would be cool if that is the use. I have a red dot on my Browning Benchmark 22. But just fun to shoot and if I want to do any precision shots from a rest it works OK.
But as I said, we all like different things and have different uses!

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Like some of the guys I guess if that is what he wants it's OK.
However, to me a P-220 which I have one myself, is a tactical and self defense type weapon and not a target pistol. Using it for self defense with a scope on it would be very cumbersome regarding concealment as well as in the defense roll would slow the weapons response down for the fact of wanting and overly dependent upon sighting through the scope. We are taught to do a flash sight picture by looking over the top of the slide on the pistol for rapid target acquisition. The delay of response to utilize the scope could be fatal and a serious issue if using the weapon to defend ones self. For target type shooting I guess it would be cool if that is the use. I have a red dot on my Browning Benchmark 22. But just fun to shoot and if I want to do any precision shots from a rest it works OK.
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I agree, I also think the reflex is easier for me to shoot with both eyes open although I dont have any on a pistol , I have one on a shotgun of all things and love it lol
Same here on both eyes-
I had a Para P-18 with a Caspian/Briley top end with the slide milled for the J-Point - I cud kill gal milk jugs out to 100 yds
THAT is the #1 gun that I should NOT have traded off
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oh, I didnt mean that bad toward you , or anyone for that matter.
I'm not offended at all. I thank you for pointing out something I didn't realize. I'll take my 'gun learning' any way I can get it.

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Like some of the guys I guess if that is what he wants it's OK.
However, to me a P-220 which I have one myself, is a tactical and self defense type weapon and not a target pistol. Using it for self defense with a scope on it would be very cumbersome regarding concealment as well as in the defense roll would slow the weapons response down for the fact of wanting and overly dependent upon sighting through the scope. We are taught to do a flash sight picture by looking over the top of the slide on the pistol for rapid target acquisition. The delay of response to utilize the scope could be fatal and a serious issue if using the weapon to defend ones self. For target type shooting I guess it would be cool if that is the use. I have a red dot on my Browning Benchmark 22. But just fun to shoot and if I want to do any precision shots from a rest it works OK.
But as I said, we all like different things and have different uses!

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Someone once pointed out to me it probably isn't a good idea to scope a home defense or self defense weapon. First of all, you probably won't be defending yourself at a range a scope would provide. Second, a lawyer might wonder why you had a self defense weapon scoped. Most self defense situations happen within just a few yards of assailant vs. potential victim. To scope a SD gun almost makes one look like he/she's looking to shoot someone who is too far away to even be a threat.

I would only scope a hunting gun or a plinking gun but never a SD or HD gun. Just my opinion.
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I've got a SS Ruger MKII which looks like

the one Winds- of- Change has in his Avatar.

The reason we can do this without mounting on the slide,

is the pistol has a Japanese-style "Nambu" slide.

The short answer as to why is,

it turns your 25 yard range pistol into

a 50, and 100 yard plinker.

It's a tack-driver at 50 yards. Shooting it

at 100 yards is more of a challenge.


I doubt anybody puts a scope on a SD gun,

for a lot of good reasons.

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Seems the odd gun to scope to me, but...

I have a Red-Dot on a .22 Colt Target -- no magnification. New optics help aging eyes.

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I find red-dots(once again, aging eyes) are great for any gun

at medium range, and much faster on target than

conventional scopes.

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On my paintball gun(yeah I know its not a real gun but bear with me), sits a cheap bsa red dot, no magnification. This is very handy for me to pick up a moving target quickly, as well as hitting small areas of the target through cover. In a hd situation, the picking up a moving target application could make the difference whether I win or he wins,especially in low light where I can't see the sights.

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On my paintball gun(yeah I know its not a real gun but bear with me), sits a cheap bsa red dot, no magnification. This is very handy for me to pick up a moving target quickly, as well as hitting small areas of the target through cover. In a hd situation, the picking up a moving target application could make the difference whether I win or he wins,especially in low light where I can't see the sights.
Ive got an NcStar holographic red/green 4 reticle sight on my AR for coyote hunting. It was/is very difficult to use the iron peep sight when its dark but with the holographic sight when the spotlight comes on i am instantly on target.
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