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Old 11-16-2012, 07:34 PM   #11
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What personal reason can you have for wanting to turn a gun into a damn frag grenade???

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Last I checked, it should be perfectly safe. Figure out your cartridge data compared to 9x18 and .380.

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Last I checked, it should be perfectly safe. Figure out your cartridge data compared to 9x18 and .380.
I know it and I know how thin/weak the metal is in them guns.
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Fair enough, what about with 10% reduced loads however ?

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Fair enough, what about with 10% reduced loads however ?
It'd work but 15% reduced hand loads would be better
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It'd work but 15% reduced hand loads would be better
Hmm, I would use a 9x19 platform but I'm worried about extraction issues on that and chose a .380 since the breech face could be opened up. Do you think it could be done easier and safer on a standard 9mm without losing any cartridge performance?
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Hmm, I would use a 9x19 platform but I'm worried about extraction issues on that. Do you think it could be done easier and safer on a standard 9mm without losing any cartridge performance?
Converting a standard 9 to another of the 9mm is always a better idea.
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Fair enough, what about with 10% reduced loads however ?
i just did. case length on a 9x18 Mak. is .713 and pressure is 23,200psi and the 380 ACP is .680 in case length and 21,500 psi in pressure. moving the chamber ahead .033" could possibly weaken the chamber to the point of it becoming a time bomb.

how are you going to gaurantee your loads to be 10% reduced? by reloading? even then there are not really any gaurantees.

you are free to do as you wish, but i would make a suggestion. please count all the fingers on your hand before firing it if you happen to make such a modification.
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Converting a standard 9 to another of the 9mm is always a better idea.
Pardon my ignorance on the subject. My first choice was a compact Tanfoglio in 9x19 but one of the guys I went to see said starting out with 9x17/.380 would be a better choice if I were looking to. I consulted a few smiths around here who said it could be done easily and safely but wouldn't do it because the time it would take.
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Pardon my ignorance on the subject. My first choice was a compact Tanfoglio in 9x19 but one of the guys I went to see said starting out with 9x17/.380 would be a better choice if I were looking to. I consulted a few smiths around here who said it could be done easily and safely but wouldn't do it because the time it would take.
Most of what they said is correct. Axxe explained what they where wrong on
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