[Vincine]

Originally Posted by BlueTurf

. . As previously pointed out, with a regular loop patch holder you are running a dirty patch back and forth through your barrel. .

??? I don't understand. Why wouldn't you remove a dirty patch after it goes through the barrel? Why wouldn't you put a fresh clean patch in it before you pull the rod back out? Am I doing something wrong?

[axxe55]

Originally Posted by Vincine

??? I don't understand. Why wouldn't you remove a dirty patch after it goes through the barrel? Why wouldn't you put a fresh clean patch in it before you pull the rod back out? Am I doing something wrong?

i think what he is talking about is the patch on a loop is captured by the loop whereas, on the jag type it isn't. so on the loop style you pull it back through then change the patch. i personally prefer the jag style for cleaning and use the loop style to soak the bore if needed.

[Vincine]

Originally Posted by axxe55

i think what he is talking about is the patch on a loop is captured by the loop whereas, on the jag type it isn't. so on the loop style you pull it back through then change the patch. i personally prefer the jag style for cleaning and use the loop style to soak the bore if needed.

?? But don't you remove the patch after it comes out the other end? Why would you pull a dirty patch back through the rifle?

[axxe55]

Originally Posted by Vincine

?? But don't you remove the patch after it comes out the other end? Why would you pull a dirty patch back through the rifle?

lack of knowing anything different. a person using a loop style, not knowing any different pushes the patch through, then pulls it back through, then replaces the patch. i know that i did it the wrong way for many years, then i started using the jag style, because it's not captured and when pushed through, you can't pull it back through the bore. i also think the jag style cleans better by the way it's made and using caliber specific jags, which i do. i have a specific jag for every caliber i own and bore brushes to match. i also replace my brushes as needed. most of the loop style are generic, fit one and all caliber type and not specific in caliber.

[therewolf]

I cut my own patches from 100%

cotton cloth.

I use a jag & rag to push out the dirt,

a swab to soak a solvent,

a brush with a patch cover to follow a solvent,

and a heavy rag with a loop to

inspect a clean barrel. YMMV...

[Polygon]

I like to run a clean patch thorough each time so I use a jag.

[The_Kid]

With my pistols and 30-30. I use a dowel rod, so there are no loops or jags.

With my 30-06s I use jags since they came with the cleaning kit... they take less time than the loops.

I buy cotton t-shirts and cut my own patches.

forgot to add... I used to use loops with my shotgun since that is what I had, now I use a dowel rod.

[canebrake]

If I can push in the direction of bullet travel, I use a jag.

If I need to pull from the muzzle end, I use a loop.

[gollygee]

I picked up a jag at my LGS with intention of buying it. At the counter, asked the guy if he agreed with folks that say they are better than using a patch. He said no, not any better. He turned down a $5 sale, so I believe him. I use patches.