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Old 12-04-2011, 12:48 AM   #11
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Even 230g ball ammo is a good SD round when it comes down to it. JMB originally designed the 1911 to feed nothing but ball ammo, a bullet that heavy travelling at the speed it does is gonna deal extensive damage whether its an FMJ or JHP. Just use what makes you comfortable

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Old 12-04-2011, 01:01 AM   #12
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That's very true. I personally wouldn't want to use FMJ ammunition, because over penetration is a big concern with ball ammunition. My father use to work at one of the local hospitals and one night after coming home from work he was telling me about how a woman got shot in the ear by a FMJ bullet over penetrating from her neighbor's house.

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i carry fmj in my spare mag. if gods forbid im ever getting shot at by a loony under cover i can switch mags to fmj for barrier penetration. 230grn fmj spare mag 230grn hollowpoints in the mag in the gun. either way i got effective ammo that shoots the same poi.

i use whatever premium hp ammo is available when i feel the need to cycle ammo. it really doesnt matter with 45acp it starts out the size of a manhole cover...

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Thats why I use frangible rounds or polymer filled fmj.

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Old 12-04-2011, 02:30 AM   #15
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The hornady 357 mag xtp i did the water test on this ammo and it came out perfect and it's powerful

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Old 12-04-2011, 09:53 AM   #16
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I carry a 1911 in .45acp. Most of the time, it is in a shoulder holster with two spare mags.

The sidearm is loaded with the original Black Talon ammo. The spare mags are filled with 230 grain FMJ.

During past experiences, I found either works well.

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I like Federal HST 230 JHP.





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I've always thought of a handgun as a defensive back-up to either my rifle or my shotgun. My shoulder firearm is my primary use tool with a good handgun as a back-up to it. I've read too many reports where pistols, some with killing shots, just didn't get the job done right in a timely manner. I like my handguns but I don't prefer them as a first line of defense if I have a choice. Naturally, when I carry concealed, I don't have the option of a shoulder weapon so I prefer to use a big bore pistol and use well placed shots in conjunction with good defensive tactics. Simple things like being able to hit a target center mass and follow up with a competent head shot while keeping your back against a wall, car, truck or other solid object works well. To me, shot placement is more of an important issue than which bullet is more effective in theory. The effectiveness of any round becomes moot when you get an attacker to stop attacking you with the right well placed shots.

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I vote for the Federal HST also. I think barrel length can affect how a round reacts & I've seen water jug tests, with 4 layers of denim in front, where the HST bullet gave great results in expansion & penetration from compact pistols with 3.25" (9mm) & 3.6" (.45ACP) barrels. Not to mention that a 50 round box of HST isn't much higher than a 20 round box of other SD ammo. Save some $$ without giving up reliability, etc.

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Winter time I prefer critical defense and powerball myself. And that's based on professional and private testing results. JMO. Many excellent SD rounds to choose from that will get the job done. I normally load Golden Sabres or Black Talons in srping, summer and fall.

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