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Old 01-23-2012, 08:00 PM   #11
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I have to disagree on much of this. The .45 LC is still a decent round that many swear by, and is still mass produced.
Same goes for the .38 special and the .357 magnum. Many people (including myself when I turn 21) still use these calibers for self defense.
The 30-30 is a classic round like the 30-06, and people will still keep using it for many decades. It's a great deer round, and one of the best rounds for a lever action rifle.
I can see these rounds still being used many decades from now, and guns still being chambered for them for decades too. They may not be the latest thing, but they are all still great, proven rounds.
.44 special on the other hand probably will become obsolete to everyone but reloaders. It was never that popular of a round anyways.
I don't get where you are coming from on the AR-15. It is a great rifle that is more accurate then an AK, but the AK does have it beat in a few other things.
Some rounds that I think could become would be lesser used rounds for the shotgun like 14ga, 24 ga, and 28ga.
I think everything you mentioned here (except for those shotgun rounds you mentioned) well be in use until we develop phasers and ray guns.

You forgot to mention the .45 ACP though. Throw that into the group that stays.
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Just because a caliber is not used by law enforcement anymore it is not obsolete. The 357 mag and 38 spcl are still pretty common.

The 30/30 is still a popular hunting round nice starter caliber.

45 lc is experiencing a rebirth due to weapons like the Taurus Judge. Cowboy action shooting is pretty popular as well.

The Colt SAA is one of the finest weapons ever made.
I agree the Colt SAA is one of the finest handguns ever made, the other is JMB's 1911
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The AR-15 was an early abortion to try to give infantry a lighter CQB weapon and enable them to carry more ammo. It was always inferior to the Kalashnikov and always will be.
I should have stopped reading your post long before this point, but this is what convinced me you don't really have a clue and you're pushing personal opinion as fact.
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I should have stopped reading your post long before this point, but this is what convinced me you don't really have a clue and you're pushing personal opinion as fact.
So if I give you a documented quote out of an authoritative book (Rolling Thunder In A Peaceful Land) would that change your mind at all?
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I should have stopped reading your post long before this point, but this is what convinced me you don't really have a clue and you're pushing personal opinion as fact.
Yeah he does that.
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The .41 Magnum has pretty much come and gone. It will always be my favorite revolver cartridge. It is close in power to the .44 Magnum, but has a flatter trajectory, so is a little easier to deal with at 100 yds or so. I have had several .41 Magnum revolvers, including Ruger Blackhawks, S&W Model 57s, Model 58s, a Model 657, and Dan Wesson 41VH and 741 VH. I still have some of them, but a box of 20 cartridges of .41 Magnum ammo now costs $68.00 and has to be special-ordered. I used to handload for them, but now it's difficult to get brass and slugs. I really am sorry to see it go. It was originally invented in 1964 for use by police, in the form of S&W Model 58, a double action revolver with 4" barrel. But the recoil proved to be more than what the police wanted, so it then was relegated to hunting applications. It was (is) great for hawg and deer, but then so is .44 Magnum. I will miss it.

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One nice thing for the 357 Sig is that it can be shot from a 40 cal Glock simply by switching barrels. For about $100 extra you have two guns in one.

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I think everything you mentioned here (except for those shotgun rounds you mentioned) well be in use until we develop phasers and ray guns.

You forgot to mention the .45 ACP though. Throw that into the group that stays.
Yep, there are a quite a few rounds that will be around long after our great grand children are gone.

.38 special/.357 mag
.45 LC
.45 ACP
.44 mag
9mm luger
30-30
30-06
.270
.223
.243
.308
7.62x39mm
.22 lr
12 ga
20 ga
16 ga
25-06
.50 BMG
.300 mag
.40

Just to name a few.

Some that may be gone before we are.

.22 hornet (which is a shame, because I love this round)
.41 mag
.22 spitfire
.223 WSSM
.243 WSSM
7.62 Nagant

Just to name a few. There are several other rounds that are being made/sold now that I have never heard of, and will probably never see first hand. Many of them will probably not last for too much longer.

Here are a few lists of calibers. You all will probably be able to pick out a few rounds that are probably going to become obsolete.

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/pistol-ammo
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/rifle-ammo?osCsid=3ti1ijgl402ooieickflb440j3
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/shotgun-ammo
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I really love my 7mmwsm, but i cant even find them like i used to. Whenever i bought it,i thought that they would more popular than what they are

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How about a couple that SHOULD be obsolete? .32 ACP and .25 ACP.

These calibers were effective as a deterrent, a hundred years ago, when a belly wound, because of the lack of antibiotics, with either round, would cause an eventual and horribly painful death.

Now you are just liable to really piss someone off using this as a defensive round.

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