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Old 12-13-2010, 01:57 AM   #21
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From my "Like" file, I like the recommendation that you rent/shoot/examine a wide variety of handguns. From my "Dislike" files, there are many fine striker-fired auto-loaders with safeties built in. When you dial in other factors like reliabilty, value, warantee, ergonomics, and toughness, you'll buy a Springfield XD. Pick one.
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The firearms community is full of misinformation, especially about the .45. I suggest you get a used Browning Buckmark 22, for $200 or so. Get the 4" skinny barrel, for the lt wt. Shoot at least a case of ammo thru it, 5000 rds, maybe $200, depending upon where you get it. Get really good with it, and study all the other guns during that several month period. Then you will be a lot more likely to get the gun you really want, and not waste a lot of money on trying this and that, on 40c a shot centerfire ammo, etc.

When you can toss up a soda can, ccw draw the .22 and hit the can in midair, every time, you will be ready for a 9mm.
Seriously? You are advocating that a beginner ,shoot a .22 into the air?

There is better advice on here.

The CZ is pain to break down, The P series HK is a great choice, but the trigger is a little spongy. One that you did not list is the XDm compact. I have not used one, but my XDm full size may be the best all around pistol that I own, and the compact is next on my list. If it is destined to be a carry pistol, conceal-ability should be priority 2, behind being able to fire it accurately.

Enjoy whichever you choose. You do not need a .40, or .45 for a EDC.
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It is never a good practice to fire a rifled firearm into the air. Lethality is only a small part of it. That is not the topic in this thread, so I will drop it.
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and again.....

This is strictly my opinion, and has worked in many years of firearms training, and for men and ladies alike. Buy a handgun just like you would buy a pair of shoes. If Ol' Joe over here says he likes Charlie China tennis shoes, and you're looking for a new pair of shoes, do you run out and buy Joe's pick, just because HE likes 'em? Probably not. If a new shooter is asking what to buy for a carry gun, it doesn't matter what works for me, or anyone else. I suggest telling that new shooter to go to many gun shops, and/or gun shows, and handle all the guns they can get hold of. Just like they would try on shoes. Before long they'll be able to make a list of guns that feel ok, pretty good, real good, and "that really feels great in my hands". The last two are the ones to pursue, and here's why I say that....
If a given handgun doesn't feel "right" in your hands, you'll not shoot it enough to become proficient with it, because it's not comfortable, and you won't like shooting it. Just like you rarely wear shoes that are UNcomfortable. If you're not gonna become proficient with it, save your money, and buy a ball bat to carry. With proper fundamentals, he/she can learn to shoot almost any handgun, or any caliber. Very few folks can re-train their hands to make just any handgun feel comfortable. The last suggestion.........proper shooting techinques, practiced slowly, but proficiently, will breed speed. Do it slowly, and do it the right way, every time.......If you practice speed first, and introduce less efficient techniques into your training, you'll have to do it all over again to get it right.

By the way..... anyone who introduces a new shooter to our pastime by having them start with a large-caliber handgun, makes a very poor decision. Yes, some folks do ok starting out with large calibers, but the vast majority will not continue to shoot if their very 1st experience is with .50 S&W. Start with a .22 caliber something, and as your technique/accuracy improves, work up from there.

Again, just my ramblings.... but they work for me...

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