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Old 03-23-2013, 06:28 PM   #71
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The entire free world uses 9MM. We aren't going to take a step backwards and return to a .45 There is no reason to.

When current weapons are worn out, the military will adopt another Beretta, SIG, FN, or whatever else meets the MilSpec at the lowest price.

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The choice of 9mm met one of three requirements set forth by the U.S. Military for the new service pistol. 1) Double action. 2) High capacity magazine, And, 3) A round capable of penetrating the soft body armor of the day. The .45acp would knock a bad guy ass over teacup, but wouldn't penetrate his body armor. The smaller, faster 9mm would.
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Dont forget that the american military has always had the unwritten requisite that the gun when out of ammo be able to be used as an effective club. So more than likely it will be all metal if they ever change
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That is news to me. I rather use a k-bar or this, my eickhorn Bundeswehr messer (German Army Knife).


Perhaps there is a real use for this thing, so long as they pick something with a rail.
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Perhaps there is a real use for this thing, so long as they pick something with a rail.
I would love to see the holster. OH, what did Gander Mountain do to you?
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OH, what did Gander Mountain do to you?
Let's just say that I am no longer a customer of Goosebump's house of Grift and that if I EVAR capture a live bear, I will be delivering it to their store as soon as I can get it pissed off enough to eat and destroy everything in reach.
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Let's just say that I am no longer a customer of Goosebump's house of Grift and that if I EVAR capture a live bear, I will be delivering it to their store as soon as I can get it pissed off enough to eat and destroy everything in reach.
That has to be an interesting story!! My daughter works at a Gander.
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That has to be an interesting story!! My daughter works at a Gander.
If she works at the one in Hattiesburg, MS, she works with a bunch of moronic @$$holes.
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No one mentioned the FN Five-seven . FN invented it to pierce the body armor that is standard in armies today .

The only testing the army did on it that I know of was done at Fort Hood by Major Hasan, who killed 13 soldiers and wounded a lot of people . This experience should yeild some useful data on the Five-Seven's effectiveness but I haven't heard anything yet . All I know is that the Administration won't admit it was terrorism and instead calls it workplace violence by a nutty shrink .

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Oooooh, Five-seveN is nice!! I want one after I get my Springfield Armory Pro, LWRCI M6A2 6.8mm SPC, M1 Garand, SIG 556, not necessarily in that order. :drool:

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No one mentioned the FN Five-seven . FN invented it to pierce the body armor that is standard in armies today .

The only testing the army did on it that I know of was done at Fort Hood by Major Hasan, who killed 13 soldiers and wounded a lot of people . This experience should yeild some useful data on the Five-Seven's effectiveness but I haven't heard anything yet . All I know is that the Administration won't admit it was terrorism and instead calls it workplace violence by a nutty shrink .
U.S. soldiers already carry one juiced up .22; why stick them with one for a handgun too? What are we worried about an invasion of Korean squirrels?

I still have a cz-52, kinda the FN57 or its day.
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