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Old 03-22-2013, 01:18 PM   #21
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The Army stopped that test and has renewed their contract with Beretta.

http://www.gunsandammo.com/2012/09/17/u-s-army-awards-new-contract-for-beretta-m9/

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The Army stopped that test and has renewed their contract with Beretta.

http://www.gunsandammo.com/2012/09/17/u-s-army-awards-new-contract-for-beretta-m9/
Not a single thing wrong with that.
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Not a single thing wrong with that.
With what?
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Beretta of course
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The Army stopped that test and has renewed their contract with Beretta.

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We were talking about it today. Well, you know how rumors are in the military Different reactions, but a lot of disappointment when the true comes out. So, no M&P or Glocks this time around. Well, at least the m9 will have the rails now. Why can't they move that damn safety though. Glock, Sig and HK are still being used by the troops, but by their own expense. SFs and contractors excluded of course.
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We were talking about it today. Well, you know how rumors are in the military Different reactions, but a lot of disappointment when the true comes out. So, no M&P or Glocks this time around. Well, at least the m9 will have the rails now. Why can't they move that damn safety though. Glock, Sig and HK are still being used by the troops, but by their own expense. SFs and contractors excluded of course.
I'm not a fan of the M9. I was brought up with the M1911A1. When we switched, I was truly amazed!! Why are we appeasing the Europeans going to NATO 9? Screw them! If I run out of .45ACP and need to switch sidearms to a 9mm, there will be plenty of it laying around, especially if the French are involved!! Soley a political move.
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The Euro vision of a handgun has been more about recognition. The handgun is carried by Euro officials as Americans would carry a badge. Americans unlike other nations has used handguns for serious offensive and defensive weapons. Americans were using the .45 Colt when most of Europe was issuing 8MM Nagants.
The American government has in recent decades tried to be more like the Socialist Nations in the U.N. The U.S. now issues a military handgun in 9MM Parabellum which is less powerful than the guns issued to the 1870s U.S. Cavalry.

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I love the old 1911 pistols, as well as many others. Have never fired the present US 9mm pistol but posess a Taurus that is similiar except holds one in the barrel and 17 in the magazine. But a pistol that I think fits the hand nice is the Walther P38 (or P1) and which if made in .45 ACP would be terrific. Have owned a few P-08 Lugers and amazed at the design, machining, and so forth but the slant angle of the grip/butt just doesn't fit my personal liking. Anyway each to his/her own liking, they are all capable of the intended usage.

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New handgun is not going to happen. To do so would be ridiculous.

The ancient SA 1911 is gone forever.

The Glock 17 would be a good choice if we needed another handgun, but we don't.

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The Euro vision of a handgun has been more about recognition. The handgun is carried by Euro officials as Americans would carry a badge. Americans unlike other nations has used handguns for serious offensive and defensive weapons. Americans were using the .45 Colt when most of Europe was issuing 8MM Nagants.
The American government has in recent decades tried to be more like the Socialist Nations in the U.N. The U.S. now issues a military handgun in 9MM Parabellum which is less powerful than the guns issued to the 1870s U.S. Cavalry.
But the US didn't issue handguns as main weapons of war, to be used offensively per se, either. They were and are for officers and those others who might need to defend themselves, and even the defensive bit started to go the way of the dodo with the introduction of the M-1 Carbine.*

The Germans, on the other hand, DID use handguns as a tool of offensive war -- it was part of their military doctrine. And they had some cool ones to be sure. Still do I guess... Fond of my P-1.

*Please don't reply about Tunnel Rats, MP's, etc.
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