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Old 03-21-2013, 08:09 PM   #31
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YES!! Precisely! So why are you worrying over having it in your holster?

You're flipping back and forth here man. Like my granddad used to say, "talking to hear your head rattle".
You must've missed some things along the way trip. Won't hold it against Ya
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:15 PM   #32
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You must've missed some things along the way trip. Won't hold it against Ya
I don't think I missed much of anything. I think you're over thinking this. Don't be waving your gun around in an unsafe manner, or pointing it at people, animals, or things as if with the intent to fire, unless you're really prepared to have to take that action. It's pretty simple, and it's much easier, and gets the same point across (unless one over analyzes the living hell out of it), to say, "never point your weapon at anything you don't intend to destroy", than the way I just worded it up there ^^^
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Maybe just change the wording for yourself to, "don't muzzle sweep anything".

That covers the bases, doesn't it?

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I don't think I missed much of anything. I think you're over thinking this. Don't be waving your gun around in an unsafe manner, or pointing it at people, animals, or things as if with the intent to fire, unless you're really prepared to have to take that action. It's pretty simple, and it's much easier, and gets the same point across (unless one over analyzes the living hell out of it), to say, "never point your weapon at anything you don't intend to destroy", than the way I just worded it up there ^^^
I still don't like it Trip, can't get past the lack of specificity. I think I'll stick with finger off the trigger unless prepared to fire. Seems to get same point across with less room for interpretation or misunderstanding.

Yes, I'm that person, who likes to discuss such things. Not because I like to hear myself talk or think, but because I like to intellectualize things, finding a way to make more efficient these common phrases, quotes, laws and the like.

It was just a thought, worthwhile one to me, if not to you then so be it. This has helped me to determine how I will address training my friend, girls, family when I take them shooting.

There is a hiccup in my theory I just thought of. When a gun jams, finger on or off trigger may not matter, thus down range must be the only way. So what rules should I go with? What order? Perhaps that's the way I should've started this thread.
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Precisely!

And that's a great story for the grandchildren! ;P
It was a .32; a chair stopped the bullet, a cheap wooden chair. Had it been a 9mm or a .38special, I might have a limp, and she might too.
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...There is a hiccup in my theory I just thought of. When a gun jams, finger on or off trigger may not matter, thus down range must be the only way. So what rules should I go with? What order? Perhaps that's the way I should've started this thread.
In that situation, the hand has already been added to the equation and has engaged the trigger, so once the hand has been added, the direction of danger should be kept clear until the firing cycle of that cartridge has been completed. IOW, once your finger pulls the trigger keep it pointed where you want a hole until there is a hole or a resolution of the misfire.

This happened the very first time I let my nephew fire my BP revolver, bad cap. He looked at me like WTH and kept it pointed at the target until I relieved him of it to re-cap that chamber. I kept it pointed in a safe direction until I was sure it was a bad cap and not a slow ignition.


I think this "don't point it" rule is more for self defense situations. The redneckified version is "don't pull a weapon unless you are ready (able & willing) to use it, 'cause the other dude may be ready to use it [spit]".
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Dad always said to never point your weapon at something you didn't intend to put a hole in. And that your weapon was like your Johnson. You never pull it out unless you have full intention of using it.

Made sense then...Makes sense now...

One of the easiest ways to end up with that cold dead feeling is to pull a gun and use it as a threat on someone that has no use for a threat.

The "Excuse me while I whip this thing out" idea works great for TV and movies. Not so good in the real world.

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Here's an idea...
How long have the basic firearms safety rules been recognized? They aren't the constitution. Write your own set, and run them by us!

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And that your weapon was like your Johnson....
I don't let my friends play with my Johnson.

I have let friends use my firearms at the range.
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I don't let my friends play with my Johnson.

I have let friends use my firearms at the range.
Tell em...they wanna handle your pistol they have to buy you dinner first.
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