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MattyT 02-01-2013 04:08 PM

Most underrated round?
 
In your opinion, what is the most underrated/underestimated caliber for self defense/carry and why?

danf_fl 02-01-2013 04:37 PM

Not fully understanding your question,

I would rate the lowly .38 Special as the most under rated / under estimated round.

c3shooter 02-01-2013 04:39 PM

The .25 auto. Why? 2 reasons.

First, it SHOULD be "underrated". Small, light bullet without a lot of power behind it.

Second- having said that, a well made .25 auto WORKS. The cartridge feeds much more reliably thru an auto than a .22 rimfire. They are small enough to be carried inconspicuosly.

Would it be my FIRST choice for a defensive arm? Oh HELL no!

Would I like to get SHOT with one? Again- Oh HELL no!

MattyT 02-01-2013 04:51 PM

I recently have a sparked interest in .22 mag. Everything I've read leads me to believe its a very fun round. On top of that, I saw last week that Ruger came out with a .22 mag LCR that looks pretty sweet. I know they make defense loads now (gold dot, hornady, etc.) and I was curious if anybody would trust their lives to a .22 mag revolver or any other "under the radar" rounds that aren't .357 mag or .45 acp. I usually use my handguns for hunting sidearms as protection but also rely on them for HD.

Colt4ever 02-01-2013 07:50 PM

Don't forget,it's not the size of the bullet but where you place it.

Axxe55 02-01-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MattyT (Post 1119221)
In your opinion, what is the most underrated/underestimated caliber for self defense/carry and why?

when asking that question, you have to look to the person being asked. if a person feels only a 45 acp is the acceptable caliber to carry, then they would have you to believe anything smaller is underrated and unacceptable.

i will counter with this, any firearm irregardless of caliber is much better than nothing. personally i don't want to be shot with any caliber!

Overkill0084 02-01-2013 08:08 PM

I'll nominate the 9 mm Luger. The Rodney Dangerfield of handgun cartridges.
Your probably thinking, "9mm? Seriously? Everyone has at least one 9 mm."
To which I say, "You're right. But how many of those people actually see it as a good SD cartridge?"
We always hear the 9 mm recommended for any number of reasons, but it's always because:
Ammo's cheap.
Ammo is plentiful & easy to find.
Recoil is more manageable.
Nearly everything has been chambered for it at one time or another...and so forth.
But how often does anyone ever see it recommended for it's Self Defense capability. Hell, whole new cartridges have been invented just to avoid using it. (.40S&W & 10 mm anyone?) If that's not a snub, I don't know what is.
I maintain that the 9 mm's reputation for a lack of stopping power and over-penetration came about due to the use of FMJ ammo. I feel comfortable in my belief that with properly designed 9 mm HP SD ammo, it will work just fine. Certainly no worse than .38 special which has not too terribly different performance properties, but without all the baggage.
I don't carry a 9 mm, for the simple reason that I don't have a "carry" type gun for it. This may change at some point.

Chainfire 02-01-2013 08:29 PM

That question is too broad to answer. I read that the Mossad used .22 short for close quarters wet work, and used them to good effect. Two shooters in direct contact with the victim and emptying full mags did the work and people in the next room would not hear the action.

Most small calibers are underated because they are under-powered for practical self defense work. It doesn't mean that they can't be deadly. In self defense, you might deliver a wound that would cause death in ten minutes, but your opponent may only need five minutes to kill you.

Most experts suggest, that for self defense, that you use a caliber that will cause a very rapid drop in blood pressure of your attacker; something that opens big, nasty holes in vital parts.

mcb 02-01-2013 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Colt4ever (Post 1119453)
Don't forget,it's not the size of the bullet but where you place it.

My wife has been telling me that for years.

BeyondTheBox 02-01-2013 09:30 PM

All good answers!

For me it would have to be the 22lr and 25acp. With the right gun any round can be either worthless or useful.

A good shooter (gun not person) with the right ammo for cycling reliability and you've got a recipe for something that can, has, and will continue to kill, thwart, and defend when called upon to do so.

There are too many variables to play what ifs. All I can say is my 22s put a hole in targets just the same as my nines and 45s. They do so as accurately and even quicker (due to lessened recoil) than the aforementioned bigger brothers.

Say what ya will, but until you've been in a gun fight where the guy shooting you had a 22 and you something else, where there were no other parties involved and it was do or die, and you came out on top, the 22lr is just as good a round for self defense than you're beloved 9mm, 40sw, & 45acps. Better than, I'd argue.


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