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Old 03-30-2010, 04:50 PM   #11
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I would argue that the arrival of law enforcement to counsel the individual open carrying would create as much or more fear than just one person getting their panties in a bunch over a guy or gal with a gun on their hip.

I might get fearful of someone walking their pit bull down the street, but the dog may be gentle as a lamb. Folks need to reign in their sensitivity tentacles on this issue.

Police have better things to do!



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’” OK, the battle lines are drawn. Is Kirby a suitable Open Carry poster child? Well, he’s certainly a persistent gun schlepper.

Kirby declined to speak to the media Monday on advice from his attorney, but according to the police report, Kirby told officers he’s openly carried his gun into several stores in recent months without a problem.

That’s good, right? Doesn’t spout off to the media straight away.

But according to the police report, the day before being cited Kirby had a run-in with security at the Vancouver Mall. He and his wife were escorted from the mall by security after shoppers complained about their weapons strapped to their waists.

Like I said, persistent. But Vancouver? That’s Vancouver in Washington state. Still, how many Americans are going to think he’s Canadian, even though the media will say “Vancouver, Washington” umpteen times? [Note: that must suck for residents, generally.]

According to the police report, the Kirbys were belligerent, perhaps trying to argue that they were not breaking any laws.

Uh-oh. Stay tuned. If not Kirby, someone.



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Kirby did nothing wrong.

Now, the panty-waist martial arts studio owner is brandishing his deadly weapons — his hands — all day long. If he’s wearing his robe, or whatever they call it, in public, and someone becomes “alarmed” then will he be ticketed?

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This is what happens when you try to take back and exercise a right to that people stopped doing 50 years ago. Use it or lose it!

I'll wager the security at the mall aren't armed. Are these security people the same type who watched a young girl get beat up at the mall?

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One thing that needs to be added to this: The mall is a private building. It's NOT a public building. If there's a notice on the doors that says "No weapons" then the owners can indeed throw you out, no questions asked, they can call the police and press charges against you for trespassing if you do not leave when asked to do so. Same thing as the old shirt and shoes rule.

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Kirby did nothing wrong.
I think that remains to be seen. If he was belligerent at the mall, then he might have been belligerent in his attitude towards the law enforcement officer. That's generally a pretty bad idea. I don't know about you guys, but last time I misspoke to a cop (I was a bit drunk, and was trying to ask the officer a question) I was pinned against a wall by 250lbs of high-alert testosterone filled law enforcement officer.

Some people just shouldn't open carry. Don't be that guy is all I have to say about it. It's not just that you are exercising a right, you are essentially representing the entire gun culture in a high profile activity. Dress nice, look like someone that a politician would want to shake hands with. Be smart about how you open carry.
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+1 on ThorsHammers comments. Attitude can make or break any type of incident.



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