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Old 12-01-2011, 10:31 AM   #11
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How about you break it into pieces and mail the separate boxes? FedEx ships very secure.

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How about you break it into pieces and mail the separate boxes? FedEx ships very secure.
The serial numbered frame alone is still considered a firearm according to the BATFE.
That part still has to go through an FFL.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:20 AM   #13
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...even if I mail parts to myself? If I own a weapon, and the weapon is at my In-laws, can they not mail my weapon to me? FFL should only be required in a transfer. Since the weapon in question 'belongs' to Grammy, there's no transfer happening, no?

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...even if I mail parts to myself? If I own a weapon, and the weapon is at my In-laws, can they not mail my weapon to me? FFL should only be required in a transfer. Since the weapon in question 'belongs' to Grammy, there's no transfer happening, no?
NO- Its not who owns what-
Its what & where & how its being sent
UNLESS you live in the same state where its legal to ship to a legal resident of the same state (again)
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...even if I mail parts to myself? If I own a weapon, and the weapon is at my In-laws, can they not mail my weapon to me? FFL should only be required in a transfer. Since the weapon in question 'belongs' to Grammy, there's no transfer happening, no?
IMO, the small fee paid to an FFL for the transfer could be way cheaper than legal fees to skirt the issue. my advice, have granny mail the gun legally to an FFL and pay the transfer fee, or drive to grannies and pick it up. when you start crossing state lines and dealing with different states laws regarding firearms, make better sense to just deal with an FFL and let him advise on the proper way to do it.
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How about you break it into pieces and mail the separate boxes? FedEx ships very secure.
Are you half tard for full tard
The frame with the serial # is the part that requires the trail. You can't just ship it in parts and slide by. You can make it smaller still the same prison time if you don't do it right. FedEx delivers to prison as well so at least you will get your very secure mail there.
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You may only ship a long gun intrastate. No handguns.

You are stationed in Kansas. You are in the military. You are a free citizen of the US.


Hows about you toss all that in the ****ter just to save a few bucks?

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Shipping firearms-

When transferring the ownership of a gun across a state line, the gun must go TO a FFL in the home state of the person receiving it. There IS an exception for inherited firearms- the EXECUTOR of the estate CAN ship them directly to the person named in the will IF possession of that gun is legal in that state.

If ownership is NOT being transferred, then a FFL is not required. I am going hunting in Montana, live in VA. I can ship my rifle to myself in care of Big Sky Lodge, Antelope Ear, Mt.

Finding a FFL- Both Gunbroker and Auction Arms have a "find a FFL" function on their home pages- FFLs that have registered as being willing to act as a transfer agent for a fee.

Shipping- Unloaded rifles and shotguns CAN be mailed by US Mail. Says so in the Domestic Mail Manual, chapter 14, restricted mailings. HANDGUNS may not be mailed except by a Dealer or Manufacturer.

Rifles, shotguns, and handguns can be SHIPPED by UPS or FedEx. They both require that HANDGUNS be sent Next day Air- which is VERY expensive. You are better off finding a Dealer you can pay to MAIL it for you. Again, if ownership is changing it must go TO a FFL. I can send a gun to Remington (a Manufacturer FFL) for repair, and they CAN return my gun directly to me, or a replacement "like kind" gun. Ownership did not change.

It is a violation of Federal law to deposit a firearm with a common carrier for shipment and NOT inform them it is a gun unless you are a FFL holder. You cannot mail a gun in parts- the receiver IS legally the gun.

Antique firearms are those made prior to 1899, OR guns that use loose ball and powder. They do not have to go to a FFL, and CAN be mailed (unloaded)

If you want to play games with the Postal Inspectors, I will NOT send you a carton of menthol cigarettes while you are in prison. They have the highest conviction rate of any Federal Agency.

Yes, there ARE rare exceptions to the above- most folks do not fall into the categories.

You can read this yourself- very long read- in Title 18 US Code Section 922. There are ALSO state laws that may apply in your state- like NY requires that handguns be shipped INTO New York by a FFL and go TO a FFL.

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You may only ship a long gun intrastate. No handguns.




Hows about you toss all that in the ****ter just to save a few bucks?
In Texas either can be shipped between legal Texas residents
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