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Old 09-04-2011, 12:51 AM   #11
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I personally wouldnt own a handgun with this "feature." I find it annoying at the very least. It turns out that the majority of departments near where I live REQUIRE officers to carry guns with this feature. I can understand the theory of "oh crap the bg just wrestled away my gun," but it should never come to that. If it does, I have a vest, and there is a lot of training focused on retention (OC qualification for one).

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Bad idea for a defensive firearm where one shot might save your life,but good idea for a MK3 where as you might be firing 500 rounds in a single afternoon and constantly reloading the mags,or like me,holster the pistol as I reload my mags(don't accidentally want one in there ready to go off)

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The only value to a mag disconnect would be if you are fighting for control of your firearm with a bad guy (and losing that fight). You could eject the mag and make the firearm nonfunctional.
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I've seen dash cam video of this actually saving a cop. He was able to drop the mag before loosing control of his weapon.
Before seeing the video I felt this feature was a solution in search of a problem. Now I see it as a solution for an LEO problem.

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Bad idea for a defensive firearm where one shot might save your life,but good idea for a MK3 where as you might be firing 500 rounds in a single afternoon and constantly reloading the mags,or like me,holster the pistol as I reload my mags(don't accidentally want one in there ready to go off)
Ah, I think I finally figured it out. The safety feature is for if there is still a round in the chamber, it can't be fired if the mag is out, right? I couldn't figure out why this feature would even be there.
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It's because too many people aren't smart enough to handle guns safely and take them seriously.



As far as "making the weapon inoperable" goes, that is a two-way street. Say an officer is doing a tactical reload (replacing a non-empty mag with a full one), and gets rushed before he can get the mag in. The ability to make that one shot could easily make or break the fight.


I liked loaded-chamber indicators. I never use them to tell me a round "isn't" in the chamber (always check the actual chamber), but I like being able to quickly tell that a round is chambered.

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I don't like them but if you remove them it could be a huge liability issue if anyone ever got hurt with your pistol even after you sold it. On a hammer gun (like a High Power) after you clear the gun the hammer is a full cock and you can't lower it without inserting the mag. Just an annoyance but I don't like it. On most with this feature it interferes with easy mag removal. Low benefit but high annoyance factor.

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On a hammer gun (like a High Power) after you clear the gun the hammer is a full cock and you can't lower it without inserting the mag.
I HAAATE that about my P22!!!!
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Ah, I think I finally figured it out. The safety feature is for if there is still a round in the chamber, it can't be fired if the mag is out, right? I couldn't figure out why this feature would even be there.
Yep, IMHO it's also there to ensure the less illuminated gun owner get's confused between his sidearms that have this feature and his sidearms that don't resulting in the next ND were sure to see pics of here...

Personally, I'd like to find a gunsmith who could safely remove the thumb safeties from my 1911's.

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If it was my carry weapon I would leave it in. However, I will be deleting it in my Mark III Ruger. I know how to and make damn sure to clear my gun so I serves me no use in that gun and as has been said, makes stripping it that much easier. Considering how easy it is, I would do it if you clear you guns properly too.

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