ok now we are talking my game. i own 3 hi points they are very very good guns i researched them for 3 months, then bought a 380 for $169.00. the gun is great never had a problem, so i bought a hi point 45 acp. not one problem, so i bought a hi point 995 9mm carbine , not one problem , they are imo. as good as the s&w sigma. they have a life time any owner warrty. i also have the phoenix 25 hp.its good, i have a heritage 22 mag, its good, but i think hi point is the best (cheap gun) out there, also people sometimes are gun snobs when it comes to low cost guns, they should buy the gun and shoot it and run there own test before talking trash about a gun, not what joe blow said his sisters friend had happen. p.s these guns are made in the usa.