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Old 03-08-2012, 03:52 AM   #1
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This was taught to us in the Marine Corps infantry... i just couldn't put a finger on what exactly it was called when i was trying to think of it. Basically the thoery was explained as putting two rounds into a target with sufficient speed and accuracy to disrupt the vital organs and essentially shut down someones nervous system causing their body to go into shock. This doesn't mean put two bullets 1/4 of an inch apart... this means putting two rounds atleast into someones torso at almost the same time ( double tap ). So all of you who are feeling rough about your shot groups at the range, keep at it... and actually practice double taps... because there's a reason behind them.

http://www.scopedin.com/articles/editorials/the-fascinating-topic-of-hydrostatic-shock/


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This was taught to us in the Marine Corps infantry... i just couldn't put a finger on what exactly it was called when i was trying to think of it. Basically the thoery was explained as putting two rounds into a target with sufficient speed and accuracy to disrupt the vital organs and essentially shut down someones nervous system causing their body to go into shock. This doesn't mean put two bullets 1/4 of an inch apart... this means putting two rounds atleast into someones torso at almost the same time ( double tap ). So all of you who are feeling rough about your shot groups at the range, keep at it... and actually practice double taps... because there's a reason behind them.

http://www.scopedin.com/articles/editorials/the-fascinating-topic-of-hydrostatic-shock/
These things always come back to the fundamentals don't they? Right tool for the job and accurate shot placement. An interesting article....thanks for sharing.


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Two wounds bleed twice as much. Loss of blood incapacitates. Two wounds at the exact same time (buckshot) tend to shut the system down almost w/o regard to placement. This cannot be replicated by one shooter with a single projectile weapon.
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Two wounds bleed twice as much. Loss of blood incapacitates. Two wounds at the exact same time (buckshot) tend to shut the system down almost w/o regard to placement. This cannot be replicated by one shooter with a single projectile weapon.

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Two wounds bleed twice as much. Loss of blood incapacitates. Two wounds at the exact same time (buckshot) tend to shut the system down almost w/o regard to placement. This cannot be replicated by one shooter with a single projectile weapon.
I'm confused?

Why couldn't this be replicated?
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Basically the thoery was explained as putting two rounds into a target with sufficient speed and accuracy to disrupt the vital organs and essentially shut down someones nervous system causing their body to go into shock. This doesn't mean put two bullets 1/4 of an inch apart... this means putting two rounds atleast into someones torso at almost the same time ( double tap ).
That article doesn't support that notion.

One part of the article suggests a "shut down someones nervous system" from shock to the spinal cord...
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There is no doubt that under exceptional circumstances, hydrostatic shock can be devastating. In the highly publicized case of the 1986 FBI shootout with two bank robbers in Florida, an agent was struck in the neck. While the shot missed both the spine and the carotid artery, the agent was paralyzed for several hours. This was attributed to trauma to the spinal cord caused by hydrostatic shock.3 Again, though, it must be noted that these instances are both highly uncommon, and highly unreliable. There is absolutely no guarantee that a seemingly identical shot to another person would produce similar results.
...but doesn't promote faith in the idea.


The article's point is to cause extreme damage to blood vessels.
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Vital organs represent a heavy concentration of significant blood vessels. As a projectile penetrates these organs, it creates a “wound channel” that damages these blood vessels to the extent that the animal’s blood pressure (BP) rapidly drops. When BP drops sufficiently, blood supply to the brain ceases or slows, and the brain ceases to function.
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The bottom line is, while the effects of hydrostatic shock won’t hurt your hunting effort, they’re probably not going to help it much, either. The time-honored axiom that proper cartridge and bullet selection, and accurate shot placement, are what really counts, remains as true today as it was 100 years ago when hunting was done with large, slow bullets that produced little or no hydrostatic shock.
The proper equipment, knowing where to hit the animal, and the ability to hit that spot, is what counts... and he doesn't mention "double taps."
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I'm confused?

Why couldn't this be replicated?
Because you can't shoot two bullets out of a handgun at the exact same time. Buckshot is more than one projectile hitting the BG at the exact same time as more than one projectile is exiting the gun at once. I would imagine at best, if the BG isn't moving and lets you just shoot at him, you can get two rounds into him within a second or so from a handgun.

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That article doesn't support that notion.

One part of the article suggests a "shut down someones nervous system" from shock to the spinal cord...

You shock the spinal cord by hitting it. Since this is the handgun section we need not discuss "getting close" to the spine as that is very unreliable at handgun velocities. Rifles are another matter. The BG's (Plat and Maddix) had rifles and did much of their damage with them.

...but doesn't promote faith in the idea.


The article's point is to cause extreme damage to blood vessels.

Extreme damage to MAJOR blood vessels. Even then dropping blood pressure to starve the brain of oxygen will leave a combatant conscious and able to do battle for 30 seconds or more
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The proper equipment, knowing where to hit the animal, and the ability to hit that spot, is what counts... and he doesn't mention "double taps."
A "double tap" only doubles your chances of hiting a vital organ.
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What does that mean? I see nothing there to warrant a 'time out'.
That is because the offensive content was deleted and replaced by my quote.
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This was taught to us in the Marine Corps infantry... i just couldn't put a finger on what exactly it was called when i was trying to think of it. Basically the thoery was explained as putting two rounds into a target with sufficient speed and accuracy to disrupt the vital organs and essentially shut down someones nervous system causing their body to go into shock. This doesn't mean put two bullets 1/4 of an inch apart... this means putting two rounds atleast into someones torso at almost the same time ( double tap ). So all of you who are feeling rough about your shot groups at the range, keep at it... and actually practice double taps... because there's a reason behind them.

http://www.scopedin.com/articles/editorials/the-fascinating-topic-of-hydrostatic-shock/

I think people spend to much time trying to shoot head shots or perfect 1/4 in spreads, and not enough reactive shooting practice! People need practice at what they want to be good at.


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