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Old 02-28-2009, 03:52 PM   #11
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A well placed shot with any of the previously mentioned loads will have a very high likelyhood of being effective. There are two other issues to be concerned about, misses and overpenetrating hits.

A heavier bullet wil have more inertia and more penetration in the intended target. There is a very good likelyhood that a 147gr JHP will exit the intended target. Where it goes from there is a concern.

A heavier bullet will penetrate through more barriers like sheetrock. Where it goes is a concern.

I am not saying light/fast is better. I am not saying heavy/slow is better. I am saying you should understand the flight/teminal expectations of a given load and make a decision base on your unique situation.

One group of people that anticipate using deadly force in a residential situation is SWAT teams. They have looked long and hard at the constraints of intra-residential combat. The 9mm SMG (HK MP-5) has fallen from favor. Many SWAT teams are using .223/5.56mm carbines (M-16 type) with light frangible bullets (< 55gr HP of SP) as they normally stay in the target and have less penetration through sheet rock than 9mm bullets of any weight.

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are frangible bullets like a hollow point or are they more fragmentary? does anybody make those for civilian use?

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Corbon makes good stuff, and they are shooters. Good dudes.

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are frangible bullets like a hollow point or are they more fragmentary? does anybody make those for civilian use?
Frangible Bullets are fragmentary, they are made by a little core and some pellets inside, and yes, Galser make a civil use 9mm frangible bullets.... Glaser Safety Slug Handgun Cartridge, 9mm Luger +P, 80 Grain... but they are a little bit expensive... like $2 each round....
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Sheetrock will not stop anything that is effective against human targets. Even a standard-velocity 115gr HP round will go through a good 4 completely sheetrock walls before stopping.

Overpenetration of a target is also not a real concern because a shooter is 4x as likely to miss the target in the first place!


Technically a 147gr JHP is going to be your best bet. HOWEVER, you won't be missing out on a whole lot by going with a lighter 115gr JHP. That is what my GF will most likely be keeping in hers because even then its about as much recoil as she wants to put up with.

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