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Old 02-03-2014, 06:02 PM   #1
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Default Holsters - To re-enforce or not to re-enforce?

I wanted to get your opinion on IWB holsters having a re-enforced mouth. Do you typically look for this type of holster or is it not essential?? I have heard that most of the time the re-enforcement band will get caught up in my belt and will make it harder to draw your weapon.. Comments, thoughts??


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Old 02-04-2014, 11:21 AM   #2
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If the holster is nylon I want something to prevent the nylon from fraying. I want a strip inside a leather holster to prevent the front sight from wearing through. I don't want a holster that is made like a bucket that a lot of TDPA shooters use.


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It is important to me that a holster does not collapse when you draw. You should be able to re-holster with one hand. If you can not, it can be dangerous. A lot of people will sweep their weak hand with the muzzle when trying to re-holster if the holster does not stay open on it's own. I have seen this on the IDPA range more than once.
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It is important to me that a holster does not collapse when you draw. You should be able to re-holster with one hand. If you can not, it can be dangerous. A lot of people will sweep their weak hand with the muzzle when trying to re-holster if the holster does not stay open on it's own. I have seen this on the IDPA range more than once.
I have a few leather holsters that have the re-enforced mouth and it seems a little more difficlut to draw then holsters without. I also learned that if you are in a struggle on the ground with a prep is nearly impossible to draw your weapon because the metal around the mouth squeezes the holster to the gun and not allowing it to release. I have tried this (without the gun being loaded of course) and I could not draw my weapon. I was wrestling with my older son who is 6' and 210lbs and I couldnt draw my weapon even if I could reach it because of the re-enforncement. Hmmmm...
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I am not talking about metal. I am talking about a second strip of leather that is bonded to the holster near the opening. It is called a stiffener. It is still flexible. But it does not collapse.
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I am not talking about metal. I am talking about a second strip of leather that is bonded to the holster near the opening. It is called a stiffener. It is still flexible. But it does not collapse.
Ok.. I think we are talking about two different things. Yes.. I agree that the second strap of leather is more flexible than the metal or plastic insert. That is what I am talking about. If its metal or plastic and not as flexible you can fid yourself in a fix if you cannot draw your gun because of the way it compresses against you.
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I am looking at holsters a lot right now myself. Good timing for this question - I will benefit from replies also.

If you are talking about IWB it would make sense to be metal/plastic to retain the shape and so it doesn't compress while being worn and the gun is out of the holster.

For the IWB the N8 Professional http://www.n82tactical.com/holster-options is on my short list.


It seems something like the IWB Remora http://www.remoraholsterstore.com/remora-rft-holster-iwb-s/1817.htm would flatten out when the guns is out of the holster. The Remora does have a lot of the holster above the beltline which may help.

If you are talking about OWB it appears to me that most reinforcement is for appearance. It may also serve to keep the holster neck open as well. Here are lots of images of OWB mostly with bands at the opening. They appear for appearance, however, but likely help hold the holster open too.

http://www.c5leather.com/Terms.html

Simple OWB molded leather:



I would also like a nice Leather OWB that can be worn as concealed covered with a long shirt tail or jacket. I don't know if it is as important for OWB but could be.

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I to was try'n to figure out IWB or OWB. IWB for me is leather / kydex or all kydex. OWB is all lether ,doubled up top edge , NO metal or plastic involed. I don't want to have struggle to draw a holster. Snug fit and that's it. Been that way for 27 years.
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I have seen this on the IDPA range more than once.
I doubt it or you would have noted that the SRO has checked the gun for chamber clear and the the shooter has dropped the hammer before leaving the range and the guns have no magazines in them. So sweeping the weak side hand is a NO issue in this case they are totally unloaded.

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Sorry.. I should have stated it in my post but this is mainly IWB holster but would like to hear if you wear OWB as well.


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