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**trip286** · 01-28-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper61

We shoot Illum all the time. we also shoot the new InfaRed Illum rounds. Can't see them pop unless you got NVGs on.

Ooh, we didn't have any of those, what do they use?

**Reaper61** · 01-28-2012, 07:36 PM

I'm not sure, but they work. We tried to spot a couple we shot without NVGs and couldn't. They are very effective because we can light up a grid square and unless you got some sort of NV (which many of the Taliban do not) you won't even know.

HOSSFLY · 01-28-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper61

Yeah we burned down a poppy field about 3 months ago using WP. Other than that we use a base-ejecting variant to create smoke screens and mark targets.

Aww yeah- Couple rounds of Willie Peter outta a 105 1st thing in the mournin is a beautifull thing

**Reaper61** · 01-28-2012, 07:44 PM

Plus its fun to wake people up with a bang

!!

**jpattersonnh** · 01-28-2012, 07:59 PM

One of the few times my Dad spoke of his time in the pacific, he told me that .30-06 rounds would be modified by cutting the tip off. He was a BAR man in the beginning and had a target on his back every patrol. He referred to the rounds as dumb dumbs. He said the Japs did the same. There was no Geneva convention or Hague accords out there. On my nephews last tour in Iraq, they were no allowed to use the SAW or any other automatic weapon against people.
They also were not allowed to fire on the guys running up to the roofs w/ ski masks on. That was w/ our Democratic President, senate and congress. Sounded like Vietnam all over again.

**jordan89** · 01-28-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jpattersonnh

One of the few times my Dad spoke of his time in the pacific, he told me that .30-06 rounds would be modified by cutting the tip off. He was a BAR man in the beginning and had a target on his back every patrol. He referred to the rounds as dumb dumbs. He said the Japs did the same. There was no Geneva convention or Hague accords out there. On my nephews last tour in Iraq, they were no allowed to use the SAW or any other automatic weapon against people.
They also were not allowed to fire on the guys running up to the roofs w/ ski masks on. That was w/ our Democratic President, senate and congress. Sounded like Vietnam all over again.

Would accuracy/range be effected by modifying a round like that? Or was it done with precision?

MrWray · 01-28-2012, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper61

I'm not sure, but they work. We tried to spot a couple we shot without NVGs and couldn't. They are very effective because we can light up a grid square and unless you got some sort of NV (which many of the Taliban do not) you won't even know.

Thats pretty damn cool

**c3shooter** · 01-28-2012, 09:04 PM

Standard illum has magnesium (and a few other things) not WP.

Think the base ejecting smoke is HC Smoke- great marker, better for screening than WP (smoke lasts longer) but NOT good to breathe.

Back in 1966, in RVN, the NVA targeted a firebase with a half battery of 105s- night assualt. 6 days earlier, the arty had gotten their first shipment of a new round- commonly called the Beehive- the APERS-T Flechette round. Each shell has 8000 tiny steel arrows. Gunners were firing at 0 mils elevation, muzzle burst fuzing. It is as impressive as any weapon I have ever seen.