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Jo da Plumbr 03-03-2011 06:28 PM

Help with new sights
 
I went to a new range last night with a friend from work. The range had very low lighting over the shooting booths. With my old/bad eyes I had real trouble sighting on most of my pistols. I want to add night sights to at least one of my HGs. I already tried glow on to the factory sights and it is not good enough. I figure upgrading the MP 45 is best as that is my HD piece.

So what are the pros and cons of Trijicon vs. Fiber optic sights? Can anyone recommend a particular brand? Any tips for installing?

Thanks for any help you can give.

pioneer461 03-03-2011 07:26 PM

With Trijicon sights, you can get a sight picture in total darkness. With fiber optics, you need a light source.

I have night sights on my carry and HD pistols (and my AR). On three of my pistols I have factory installed 3 dot Trijicon sights, and on one (+ AR) I tried XS 24/7 night sights. The difference is the 24/7's are modeled after iron sights on big / dangerous game rifles, for quicker front sight acquisition, such as would be needed for sudden self defense. Not to be confused with "normal" 3 dot systems, the 24/7 sights make lousy target sights, but excellent for self defense. The jury is still out on which ones I prefer.

On one of my pistols (a 1911) I installed fiber optic sights from Williams Sights. They are excellent for day to low light applications, but useless in total darkness. With mine, the first time out the front fiber insert went flying into orbit. I'm trying to get it replaced by Williams, but they say they have been having trouble with those lately. ????? :confused:

JonM 03-03-2011 09:59 PM

my cz97bd had trijicon nite sights. i found them useless in low light conditions as are often found in indoor ranges. they were green with whit circles. worked great in a dark room at nite. but in a dim indoor range....useless.

Samples.32 03-03-2011 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JonM (Post 457063)
my cz97bd had trijicon nite sights. i found them useless in low light conditions as are often found in indoor ranges. they were green with whit circles. worked great in a dark room at nite. but in a dim indoor range....useless.


I have several sets of Trijicon night sights on various things, and I have never had issues with them in low light... They still glow! Maybe get your vision checked?! (Not being rude, just confused)

WDB 03-04-2011 12:34 AM

I have Trijicon night sights on my M&P 45 and a couple others they work great even in low light.

Jo da Plumbr 03-04-2011 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by WDB (Post 457143)
I have Trijicon night sights on my M&P 45 and a couple others they work great even in low light.

What vendor did you use? Did you install yourself? Any issues?

M14sRock 03-04-2011 02:22 AM

Get the Heinie slant pro's, Jo. They are great as daytime sights, and as night sights.

Jo da Plumbr 03-04-2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by M14sRock (Post 457214)
Get the Heinie slant pro's, Jo. They are great as daytime sights, and as night sights.

I looked them up. A straight 8 they call it. One dot on top of the other. I have never tried that type sight. Do you have one I can try at the range tomorrow?

Also I was talking to the range officer at Firing Line last night. He was saying that sights have to be pressed in by a smith. But I figured you have a sight changing tool somewhere that you have forgotten about. :D

Sniper03 03-04-2011 03:20 PM

Jo Da,

I have had a set of Heinie Figure8 Sights on my Model 22 Glock for 15 years while on duty. I still have the duty pistol today since it was issued to me upon retirement. They are an excellent sight system. If you think about it your eye can tell very easily if a door frame is not perfectly vertical easier than they can detect anything that might not be exactly level. That is the advantage they have over the traditional three do system. Where you have to have even space between all three dots plus you have to have them at the correct elevation alignment with each other. The Heinie Figure 8 system you simply place the front sight dot on top of the rear sight dot and shoot. Your eye will detect immediately if the dots are not vertically lined up and certainly rapidly if you do not see both dots completely. I would encourage you to try them if you can locate some to look at!

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Jo da Plumbr 03-04-2011 03:30 PM

Thanks Sniper
I'm going to meet up with M14 for his company shoot tomorrow. Hopefully he will have them for me to try. They ain't cheap though. 150 for the sights and 77 for them to install. that's nearly half the price of the MP. :eek:


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