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Old 05-12-2011, 08:53 PM   #31
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I am sure you and everyone on this site can come up with scenarios where you think you might need to be able to shoot dimes at 25 yards...
Maybe a silver dollar at 30 yards.





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Once again, RIFLE TERRITORY!!!

But that big guy just wants a hug and some belly rubbins though.

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...and some belly rubbins though.
Yah, from inside the belly.
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Ha! Of course, if all youve got is a handgun, youll appreciate the ability to make hits BEFORE the bear gets a few yards away :P

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Ha! Of course, if all youve got is a handgun, youll appreciate the ability to make hits BEFORE the bear gets a few yards away :P
You are forgetting Pits First Rule. When you are in one, stop digging.

I am shooting you in the knee, at close range, and then jogging my happy ass on up the trail to build you a memorial.
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:29 PM   #36
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Well, I guess I'm just punching holes. But by punching holes I hope to become accurate and able to defend myself should the situation ever arise.
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Ha! Of course, if all youve got is a handgun, youll appreciate the ability to make hits BEFORE the bear gets a few yards away :P
A word to the wise about defense against grizzly bears from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/bear%20spray.pdf

"...When it comes to self defense against grizzly bears, the answer is not as obvious as it may seem. In fact, experienced hunters are surprised to find that despite the use of firearms against a charging bear, they were attacked and badly hurt."

"Evidence of human-bear encounters even suggests that shooting a bear can escalate the seriousness of an attack, while encounters where firearms are not used are less likely to result in injury or death of the human or the bear. While firearms can kill a bear, can a bullet kill quickly enough -- and can the shooter be accurate enough -- to prevent a dangerous, even fatal, attack?"

Bear pepper spray - not just ordinary pepper spray - is viewed as the best option in defending ones self against bears.

As was discussed earlier, when under a stressful adrenalin dump situation where you are rattled or startled, how sure are you that you could keep your cool and aim well enough to stop that charging grizzly?
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Im not, though I am not personally worried about bear attacks :P . Though, I did know about the relative ineffectiveness of especially handguns against bears (largely due to shot placement), and about the much better success with bear spray.

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"food" for thought...bears in Utah! Bears associate food with people. Not people as food. However, the outcome is the same - dead people.
Bottom line...know your surroundings


I just can't believe the family, especially an 11 year old boy, didn't have ANY food while they were camping. i.e. marshmellows etc. Highly unlikely.
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Try shooting a target at close range.

You may be surprised at what you wind up with.

Rather than perfect bulls-eyes, you may find your gun shooting high or low.

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