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Old 11-03-2013, 11:54 PM   #1
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Default Help ID pump action .22 pistol

This is an unusual piece. Originally thought it was a modified rifle from a pic but after holding it, that isn't the case. No manufacturer stamped or indicated anywhere ( at least not visible )

Has serial # 57**** ( six digit )
B ( B centered under number )

Anybody ???? THX

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That is a Winchester Mdl. 62 pump action rifle. It has been modified to provide a Federal felony charge for the owner. If the serial numbers are missing it is most likely stolen.

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That is a Winchester Mdl. 62 pump action rifle. It has been modified to provide a Federal felony charge for the owner. If the serial numbers are missing it is most likely stolen.
Sorry but this is NOT a modified rifle. I thought so when last week I only saw a pic. I figured the receiver tangs had been bent down to accept a pistol grip. I handled it today and can assure this was manufactured as a handgun.

The entire serial number is plain but I don't believe in posting complete numbers.

This has two wood grips that are attached to a handgun frame just like a Smith or Colt.
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Yes missed the serial number post. Take some friendly advise, regardless of what you think. You have an illegal cut down rifle that is not worth the misery it can bring.

Enter your serial number on the this search engine.

http://www.oldguns.net/sn_php/windateslookup.php?file=winxx62.dat

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Yes missed the serial number post. Take some friendly advise, regardless of what you think. You have an illegal cut down rifle that is not worth the misery it can bring.
It's not mine and again, it is not a modified rifle.

It is old, old. If it was originally blued the bluing has worn off.

This is a rifle type receiver granted, but it was manufactured seamlessly with a revolver frame relative to the grip.

If I knew how to post a vid of the action without going thru YouTube I would because it's...........unusual to me.
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It is possible that a skilled gunsmith did modify a old Winchester rifle into a pistol before the National Firearms Act in the 1930s. It may not have been a felony at the time of manufacture but ownership now may indeed require registration with the ATF. I'm not sure about any grandfather clauses or how a subsequent transfer would work out, or if it would be classified as a pistol if the conversion occurred prior to the NFA.

Gunsmiths back then were really very capable of making a pretty seamless conversion.

I also don't know of every gun it there so, there may have been legit pistols from that era as well, but Winchester gallery guns were very common pump .22s.

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Enter your serial number on the this search engine.

http://www.oldguns.net/sn_php/windateslookup.php?file=winxx62.dat
THX but didn't work; outside range. It may not be Winchester.
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Everything from the grip forward definitely looks to be an old Winchester 22.

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This is getting interesting. Guys, I really appreciate the concern and was originally of the same opinion re modified rifle.

The steel is close to but a bit better than that of a Civil War era Colt Navy.

It is old enough that any finish has worn off and the expected pitting is evident and uniform. The construction is such that any seams no matter how well done could be seen. They just ain't there.

Alternative: Someone with more money than needed commissioned a master gunsmith to use receiver parts, cast/forge a custom handgun frame to mate to the receiver, appropriate sized barrel, etc, etc, etc.

Also; there is no feed slot in the tube mag. The spring loaded ram/insert must be totally removed to load the tube mag ( capacity unknown; don't know whether short, long, LR or all/any ).

I have to go back with my camera rather than my phone to get a series of good pics.

Also note the lack of a full trigger guard....????

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There were no guns "Grand Fathered". Back in the day the expensive fees altered owner ship of most listed guns. If you are apprehended transporting that gun or crossing state lines it will be damn serious.

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