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Old 05-15-2012, 01:25 AM   #11
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Durango and whoever agree with him...WTF? YOU NEVER RIDE THE SLIDE CLOSED ON A SEMI-AUTO PISTOL. Recommending the practice is very foolish.

I agree the broken/frozen firing pin posibility.
That was my thoughts too. "every 1911 owner should know to never just hit the slide release button without manually slowing the slide"? That makes no sense.


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Robo I never said to ride the slide. You have come up with another reaction. You never let a 1911 slide ram shut. You need some instruction on "Slam Firing" .


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With the info at hand, I would tend to agree with a broken firing pin or a weak or broken firing pin spring. As to the 1911 slam fire argument, the 1911 is designed to be chambered using the slide release and letting the slide strip a round and chamber it under it's own inertia. A properly maintained 1911 with a proper firing pin and spring combination will not slam fire while chambering a round. The same process of chambering a round is done everytime you pull the trigger in a 1911. What you do not want to do is release the slide on it's own on an empty chamber. This can and will, in the long run, cause damage to the sear and/or hammer full cock sear notch. This is where I think DURANGO is confused on dropping the slide on the 1911.


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With the info at hand, I would tend to agree with a broken firing pin or a weak or broken firing pin spring. As to the 1911 slam fire argument, the 1911 is designed to be chambered using the slide release and letting the slide strip a round and chamber it under it's own inertia. A properly maintained 1911 with a proper firing pin and spring combination will not slam fire while chambering a round. The same process of chambering a round is done everytime you pull the trigger in a 1911. What you do not want to do is release the slide on it's own on an empty chamber. This can and will, in the long run, cause damage to the sear and/or hammer full cock sear notch. This is where I think DURANGO is confused on dropping the slide on the 1911.

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Hey SUPER, one other thing I would check is the possibility of the hammer following the slide when you release the slide. It is possible that you could have a sear or hammer notch problem.

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I have a question, what's the difference in releasing the slide on a live round and the slide slaming forward into battery after EVERY SINGLE SHOT FIRED. If the slide does it after every shot, I really can't see the difference.

Please explain if I'm missing something.

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With normal firing, the trigger is held back. Allows the parts (sear and disconnector) to function as designed.

Using the "sling shot" manner when starting uses the fresh round as a "buffer" to slide slam.

Allowing the slide to slam forward without loading a fresh round removes the "buffer" affect.
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Hey SUPER, one other thing I would check is the possibility of the hammer following the slide when you release the slide. It is possible that you could have a sear or hammer notch problem.

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That's basically what is going on. Everytime and only when you drop the slide the hammer is always following.
When I had it all apart. The spring and the hammer strut did look bent
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I have had mine do that, its dirty, check and see if there ain`t a bunch of crap in, on & around the sear.............carbon & such. I also have a Ruger in .30 carbine.
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You are getting slam fires. Anyone who uses 1911 pistols should know to never let the slide slam a loaded round. The hand is used to slow the travel of the slide when you push the release. You may have high primers a fowled chamber a bad disconnector a swelled or carboned firing pin. But start by proper slide release.
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Robo I never said to ride the slide. You have come up with another reaction. You never let a 1911 slide ram shut. You need some instruction on "Slam Firing" .
OK. You posted "the hand is used to slow the the travel of the slide..." That is the definition of "riding the slide".

You ALWAYS let a 1911 slide "ram shut" when loading from a magazine! How on earth do you retard the movement of the slide when shooting? Do you ride your thumb along the slide to "slow" tghe movement of the slide.

Inquiring minds want to know.


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