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Old 11-15-2013, 02:54 PM   #11
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It is not fair to compare a modern molded plastic pistol to the Luger. The lost art of superior engineering and hands on metal art that went into the Luger is gone. We should try to save all the Lugers we can they are works of art.

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As has been said this is an early Luger issued by the Dutch military and Rust means safe.

Before doing anything with it I'd join http://www.lugerforum.com and post good pictures in their discussion forums. Jan Stills also has a Luger forum. You'll get answers from scores of Luger experts, some who specialize in the Dutch/Vickers pistols.

I would NOT rework or refinish it yet until you get dozens of opinions from the Luger sites. Honest wear, especially in a hundred year old firearm, is better than sand blasting/rebluing. This is a piece of history and everything that's happened to it probably is honest, refinishing it destroys that.

I wouldn't shoot it for now until your pictures are examined at lugerforum, there seems to be damage to the receiver ears (bent) plus it's just so darn old. Now that doesn't mean it's unsafe, just get expert advice. I do shoot my 1913 DWM 100 rounds a year but it's a common P08 model with mismatched parts so if something breaks (and it has) I can replace with another unmatching numbered part. Yours may have matching numbers.

Good luck and we'd love to see more pictures!!!

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The serial number on the gun is 13084 all matching ...... But on a serial number lookup I cannot find anything with these serial numbers range.

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This luger has already been crudely sanded or buffed. And the damaged rear toogle would also be replaced. These guns were reblued and refinished by the Dutch every 6 years. The new finishs never matched the orginal matt.
"Rust" means Rest as to the safety arrow stamps.

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It is not fair to compare a modern molded plastic pistol to the Luger. The lost art of superior engineering and hands on metal art that went into the Luger is gone. We should try to save all the Lugers we can they are works of art.
Good points, nite! The engineering and craftsmanship that went into Lugers is something to behold. Alas, it's just not feasible to do today at a competitive price. Other than a really good retro 1911, they just don't build 'EM like they used to!
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This is what I was able to look up on 2013 blue book. 1st line

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All matching numbers? Don't shoot it or do anything till you have the guys at Lugerforum look over your pics. They won't steer you wrong.

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The deep wavy buffing has really hurt this pistols value. The corners are rounded and numbers also.It is a shame these are rare Lugers.

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Good points, nite! The engineering and craftsmanship that went into Lugers is something to behold. Alas, it's just not feasible to do today at a competitive price. Other than a really good retro 1911, they just don't build 'EM like they used to!
I saw a special on the military channel about Lugers and a modern day gunsmith is building them again from scratch. As you can imagine, it takes an incredible amount of artistry. Each gun is made by hand and while he has perfected the process and set up his own small factory in his garage, he can only produce a small amount of pistols each year. I was going to get on the waiting list until I saw the price - It was over $2K

It should be a crime to even mention a Luger in the same sentence with a Glock. Gaston has even bothered to correct his original design errors and this has resulted in many "Kaboom Stories."

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