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Old 02-12-2011, 10:50 PM   #11
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Red dots are typically no or low magnification, therefore most red dots are really not designed for long range. I'm no expert on scopes, but I do know that crosshairs can provide more useful information at longer ranges than a simple red dot can.

And correct on the lasers. They are not typical for long range... unless I suppose used in conjunction with a telescopic lens.
Thanks for your help. I'll digest this and see what I come up with.
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Just another opinion. Beretta 96fs. I love mine.
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Just another opinion. Beretta 96fs. I love mine.
In other words, with a few .40 caliber carbines named, any .40 caliber pistol will fit the bill <u>regarding ammo</u>. If I really want to get guns that share mags also, I can go with the Ruger, though I hear they are reluctant to to give them up when it is time to switch out.

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Rifles and pistols are cambered for the intended use. Trying to find one caliber that fits both needs IMHO leaves you lacking in one or the other. There are many solid pistol and rifle calibers but never found one that makes sense for both. It's like asking for an SUV that is also a sports car. Two totaly different intended uses.
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Rifles and pistols are cambered for the intended use. Trying to find one caliber that fits both needs IMHO leaves you lacking in one or the other. There are many solid pistol and rifle calibers but never found one that makes sense for both. It's like asking for an SUV that is also a sports car. Two totaly different intended uses.
I appreciate that. That is one of the reasons I was considering the Hi-Point. At least it is cheap, and certainly there is some benefit to a .40 carbine. That is also one of the reasons I asked about a gun that fires the same caliber round as an AK. I want an AK, but want to achieve an economy in ammo.

I considered a .45 caliber combo, but I don't want a .45 (I don't think) as my first gun for HD. So, how far do you think I could shoot a .40 carbine and be a threat? Probably farther than I would be accurate with a pistol.
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I appreciate that. That is one of the reasons I was considering the Hi-Point. At least it is cheap, and certainly there is some benefit to a .40 carbine. That is also one of the reasons I asked about a gun that fires the same caliber round as an AK. I want an AK, but want to achieve an economy in ammo.

I considered a .45 caliber combo, but I don't want a .45 (I don't think) as my first gun for HD. So, how far do you think I could shoot a .40 carbine and be a threat? Probably farther than I would be accurate with a pistol.
You would probably do well to get a handgun, get some training, and get familiar with the culture, then figure out carbines and rifles. What you think now will change over the next year as you learn more.
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You would probably do well to get a handgun, get some training, and get familiar with the culture, then figure out carbines and rifles. What you think now will change over the next year as you learn more.
I know, but a lack of funds makes you think. After spending years without the money to buy anything...but dreaming about the sexy AR-15 vs. the reliable AK, I have come to the conclusion that an AK 47, 74, or one of the hundred series is for me. It is "cheap" and reliable. Maybe someday I'll get the AR, but practicality first.

Oh, but then there is the BM ACR. Oh dear! But alas, I can't afford it...but this isn't a financial forum, or an emotional support group; it is, however, a common theme, hence, I need to think ahead.

I want the .40, I guess, because I have heard of rounds from a 9 bouncing off of stuff. I like the idea of a gun that is good for HD, one I could CC at least in the colder months. If I can marry it to a carbine, the diversity could come in handy. Worst possibility is I don't get a carbine in a .40, and I wish had gotten a 9. Hopefully at least the .40 handgun will have been a good choice.

Anyway, I guess I have the info I need. I'll let you know what I buy. If the .40 has more kick than I want, I may end up with a 9 anyway.

I appreciate all of your recommendations. At least I know some guns you think are quality.
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Tuco, There is a carbine that takes Glock mags. I just can't remember which one or if it's already been mentioned. I think that's what you're looking for.
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Tuco, There is a carbine that takes Glock mags. I just can't remember which one or if it's already been mentioned. I think that's what you're looking for.
Thanks--read something about it. I like a manual safety. I get the thought behind the Glock design. I think back to Plaxo Burres (sp) shooting himself in the leg. This tells me that he always puts his finger on the trigger. I won't do that; for my first gun though, I feel more comfortable with a manual safety.

Again, thanks for the option.
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I want the .40, I guess, because I have heard of rounds from a 9 bouncing off of stuff. I like the idea of a gun that is good for HD,
I have a .40 myself which is what I keep next to my bed, but I wouldn't be concerned about a 9 bouncing off stuff.
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