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Old 08-14-2013, 07:22 AM   #21
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No question guys! It's the distributors and the local dealers marking up the costs. I try and buy from the "good" guys who aren't killing us too bad with that "Supply & Demand" junk. Right now I'm only buying Ammo online at the lowest prices possible. Unless I'm at my Range, because when they do have Ammo they have a lot and at close to normal prices.
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MSR prices are coming back to normal. Still going to see inflated prices on the used market due to people being in for more than the guns are worth.
This has been interesting to watch. Seems like every time I'm at one of the local shops lately, someone off the street is trying to sell an $800 AR for $1200 because they paid $1500 for it a few months ago.
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I think they will remain steady for the most part and you might see something on sale for a little more off than normal if something doesn't happen. If some idiot walks into a school or office building killing a bunch of people or something along that line then all bets are off....
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Do you guys think handgun prices will increase, decrease or remain steady over the next 6-12 months? I ask because I just read an article on-line wherein the author thought prices would decrease a little bit (I find this difficult to believe). No hurry on answering this question...I'm just curious about your opinions.
I wouldn't count out the insurance companies contribution to higher prices by way of higher premiums to manufacturers and others, so everyone can have their backsides covered. It all adds up.
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No question guys! It's the distributors and the local dealers marking up the costs. I try and buy from the "good" guys who aren't killing us too bad with that "Supply & Demand" junk. Right now I'm only buying Ammo online at the lowest prices possible. Unless I'm at my Range, because when they do have Ammo they have a lot and at close to normal prices.
during the recent panic of just a few months ago, when prices went through the roof and lots of dealers were trying to fleece the innocents, my LGS didn't raise his prices anymore than what he had to because of his distributors. this is why i will continue to do business with him. he remained loyal to his customer base and didn't try and rake his customers over the coals.
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during the recent panic of just a few months ago, when prices went through the roof and lots of dealers were trying to fleece the innocents, my LGS didn't raise his prices anymore than what he had to because of his distributors. this is why i will continue to do business with him. he remained loyal to his customer base and didn't try and rake his customers over the coals.
Right! Out of the 6 I use In my region, My Shop @ the Range, my Pawn Shop, and two Gs's over the "Mtn." In Prescott, are the ones not killing everyone. I also went into a shop Up in Flagstaff after my wife's Dr. Appt. I did See some "Good Prices" on New & Used Guns, but just grabbed some more Ammo(at close to "pre-silliness" prices). Got 2 Federal 9mm 124 Gr. FMJ 100 Packs for $75.00, 3-50 Rd. Boxes of 38 Special148 Gr. SWC for the wife, 100 Rds. of Winchester 147Gr. +P 357(both of us) 2 Boxes of Remington Golden Sabers, one 9mm 124Gr. +P JHP for me, and one box of the 38Special's I think they are 125Gr....then 2 boxes each of 20 round Speer Gold Dot for each of us. No .22LR, but 300 assd. Rounds of .22Mag. I had to break the purchase up between 2 CC's!!
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The manufactures have increased prices by 7% to 13% depending on the type and brand you are buying. There will be a surge of used firearms on the market.
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during the recent panic of just a few months ago, when prices went through the roof and lots of dealers were trying to fleece the innocents, my LGS didn't raise his prices anymore than what he had to because of his distributors. this is why i will continue to do business with him. he remained loyal to his customer base and didn't try and rake his customers over the coals.
I won't blame a retailer for reacting to the market.

Consider this... Demand spikes and supply is disappearing rapidly. You as the retailer decide to leave your prices the same and run out of your inventory very quickly at your regular margin. Now once you run out of the inventory you have on hand, the supply available to you may only be one quarter of what you had planned on if you can get any at all. So now your revenue has dropped to practically nothing, but your overhead expenses of running your business are still the same. You quickly run out of cash and must close your doors.

On the other hand, you decide in the face of skyrocketing demand to raise your prices and increase your margin. You are able to pull in more profit and bank the cash. You exhaust your inventory and your supply is limited so your sales drop. But you are able to weather the storm because you have the extra cash generated by raising your prices when demand spiked and you had inventory.

People are far too quick to scream "price gouging" without thinking through what the consequences will likely be to the retailer if they do not respond to dramatic shifts in the market.
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This has been interesting to watch. Seems like every time I'm at one of the local shops lately, someone off the street is trying to sell an $800 AR for $1200 because they paid $1500 for it a few months ago.
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I won't blame a retailer for reacting to the market.

Consider this... Demand spikes and supply is disappearing rapidly. You as the retailer decide to leave your prices the same and run out of your inventory very quickly at your regular margin. Now once you run out of the inventory you have on hand, the supply available to you may only be one quarter of what you had planned on if you can get any at all. So now your revenue has dropped to practically nothing, but your overhead expenses of running your business are still the same. You quickly run out of cash and must close your doors.

On the other hand, you decide in the face of skyrocketing demand to raise your prices and increase your margin. You are able to pull in more profit and bank the cash. You exhaust your inventory and your supply is limited so your sales drop. But you are able to weather the storm because you have the extra cash generated by raising your prices when demand spiked and you had inventory.

People are far too quick to scream "price gouging" without thinking through what the consequences will likely be to the retailer if they do not respond to dramatic shifts in the market.
i understand that's part of doing business if you expect to keep the doors open, but he didn't raise his prices unrealistically, which a lot of dealers did. many of these dealers we heard about here on this forum. if his distributors go up in price, he has to if he wants to keep the same profit margin.

price gouging is raising prices just because you have something people want and knowing they would pay whatever you cahrge in order to have it and then fleecing them just to make a huge profit margin.
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