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Old 03-01-2010, 02:36 PM   #1
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Just curious about what other think about this. I know that there are guns (like every other product) that are defective right out of the box.

I do however see so many posts about topics like, my gun always jams, my rear site flew off, my frame cracked, firing pin broke and so on...

At the same time there are some with these defective guns that have posts like, I completely disassembled my gun, punched out roll pins to remove sites and firing pin, clipped recoil and mainsprings for better trigger pull and functioning. And the dreaded "dremel tool" modifications. There are also the "this is my first gun, what do I need to do to make a better trigger pull" which gets answers like "take it all apart, get a dremel and some polishing stones..."

You know what I mean, home gunsmithing projects by folks whose only experience with it is reading some sticky-post telling them all the stuff they need to do to make the gun "even better".

I remember years ago when I hung out on knife discussion boards that people would talk about some knife company and how bad they were since they would not fix knives under warranty...many times it turned out the the knife was actually received by the company as a box of parts...or put back together so bad that it was obvious somebody had tried the home modification route.

And back to guns, I have even seen posts where somebody has a gun blow up, it turns out they were reloading ammo and then told my many "dont tell the company you shot reloads.

I just think some (not all) complaints about guns failing are not factory problems, but problems with the owners who take things apart that they are not qualified to do...but they think they are because they followed internet advice.

Thoughts?

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I just think some (not all) complaints about guns failing are not factory problems, but problems with the owners who take things apart that they are not qualified to do...but they think they are because they followed internet advice.

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Maybe it would help if they printed the instructions in English
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It all comes down to the integrity of the owner. The gun companies try to look out for people screwing them over and I'll bet it happens often. Consequently, the rest of us honest folks get to pay for it when something really is factory defective.

It's a visciouis cycle.

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For the most part, people that "tinker" with things (like guns) generally get themselves into trouble. Then they attempt to scape-goat their way out by blaming the manufacturer in very creative ways. This is all too common, and and it costs EVERYONE. You and I pay (big bucks) for this every time we purchase ANYTHING.

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