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Poink88 03-31-2011 05:10 PM

Go-to-gun follow up...ammo qty?
 
Inspired by this thread...
http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f14/go-gun-40578/

After you chose your single go to gun...how much ammo will you bring with you?

Assume you have more than you can carry available and have to carry everything else like food, clothing, etc.

canebrake 03-31-2011 05:35 PM

This is where the capacity advocates seam to misunderstand, and where shot placement advocates make some real sense.

A good rule of thumb is that 500 rounds of handgun ammo weighs about 20#. Add that to your food and survival items (Remember this rhyme about water? A pint's a pound the world around.) and you soon see a fast retreat gets slowed down. (Can you say ammo dump?)

If your movement is on foot and you need to make fast and multiple moves, you may find yourself choosing between food/water and ammo.

Here's a hint. You need food and more importantly water, but you may go days/weeks without needing to fire a shot.

Adds credence to one shot, one kill!

Poink88, a very poignant question. Thanks for posing this dilemma for all to discuss and decide.

Poink88 03-31-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canebrake (Post 476581)
This is where the capacity advocates seam to misunderstand, and where shot placement advocates make some real sense.

That is why I practice now...so I do not have to carry my practice rounds later. :D

Lindenwood 03-31-2011 06:55 PM

My only weapon is a .44 magnum Raging Bull. When I carry it concealed, I typically just have one speedloader in my jacket / vest pocket. At most for really touch situations, I'll have the loaded weapon, 4 speedloaders on my belt above my right thigh, and a 20rd shell belt around my stomach, offset to put the shells below my right arm (for concealment). That is 50 rounds that is actively ready to go. Then, again at most, I'll have a 50rd box of ammo in my pack to replinish any ammo I use.

I definitely agree with making shots count, but more important, I say avoid conflict in the first place. I can walk into Walmart with all of my primary SHTF gear (everything concealed except my satchel) and be far better prepared than anyone who had to do the same but left their Mossberg in the car or at home. Just the same, I can walk down the street trying to make it home, with the aforementioned "SHTF" gear, and not attract any more attention than necessary. Doing that with an AR15 hanging off my chest will get me arrested if LEs are round, or attacked either because people think I'm a threat, or because people want what I have. If they don't see that I have anything, they are far more likely to leave me alone.

When 9mm was my main gun, it was typically the 17rd factory mag, two 21-rd mags, and then a small bottle with about 145 rounds.

jismail 03-31-2011 10:12 PM

I think it wpuld depend on the nature and duration of the SHTF incident.

For example, if the incident were like the Japan disaster, I would have an expectation of fending for myself for a short while until social services are restored or the government recovers, and therefore would only plan on carrying a half dozen magazines for emergency foraging and perhaps defending against a looter or attempted robbery.

In contrast, if our SHTF incident was similar to Libya where the expectation is that I will be in a run-and-gun mobilization of the civilian population, well then, I am going to carry (or stash nearby) as much ammo as I can realistically manage knowing that I will be expending it at a much higher rate.

I think that the above would also influence my choice of arms to grab as I run out the door ie: a .22 for foraging or a .223 for dropping bad guys...

Guess there is no 'one size fits all' answer.....

JonM 03-31-2011 11:25 PM

25 7 round mags 230grn fmj. plus the 5 100 round ammo boxes which can be hidden/buried for a while in a cache. can always leave them in hidden caches.

Poink88 03-31-2011 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonM (Post 476822)
25 7 round mags 230grn fmj. plus the 5 100 round ammo boxes which can be hidden/buried for a while in a cache. can always leave them in hidden caches.

Never thought of that. Good idea!

powg 04-02-2011 04:17 PM

ammo carry
 
why do I have to tote it? An enemy will tote it for you under threat of execution.....LOL. If he gives out , or gets hungry/thirsty shoot him ,get another ammo barrer.I know this sounds crazy and unrealistic ....but it is done today in uncivilized parts of the world. When surrounded buy mad dogs ,you yourself must become the most vicious off them all .... The art of war .

Poink88 04-02-2011 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by powg (Post 477803)
why do I have to tote it? An enemy will tote it for you under threat of execution.....LOL. If he gives out , or gets hungry/thirsty shoot him ,get another ammo barrer.I know this sounds crazy and unrealistic ....but it is done today in uncivilized parts of the world. When surrounded buy mad dogs ,you yourself must become the most vicious off them all .... The art of war .

That is extreme...something I am not willing or even contemplate to do.

therewolf 04-02-2011 08:59 PM

High capacity mags play an important part here, as you will probably fill
any mag you decide to carry.

3-17 round mags = 51 rounds, one full box(+1).

I would carefully consider carrying mags of ammo only, otherwise you waste weight on an additional ammo container.

The rest is simply math, stamina, and priority, for your given scenario.


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