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Old 09-19-2010, 09:14 AM   #1
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Dear All,

My grandfather died a few years ago. We are soring out the house and founds some firearms. I will post some pictures. Does somebody know what they are?

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Old 09-19-2010, 07:33 PM   #2
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Hi Hood and welcome here. I suggest that you post this in the Black Powder section of the forum. That may get you better response.

When you get a chance, head over to the new Members Introduction forum and introduce yourself to the folks.

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That is great advice from CA357.

My very uneducated and general observations:

The first one appears to be a flintlock pistol that was converted to percussion.

You probably also noticed the ramrod is missing. It looks vaguely military to me, rather than say a civilian dueling pistol. I found one similar at this link:

http://www.ambroseantiques.com/fpistols.htm

Look for the one from the Napoleonic period.

The second smaller pistol looks like a percussion cap pocket pistol , sometimes also referred to as a "derringer". It rather reminds me of the gun J. Wilkes Booth used to kill Lincoln. Go to this link and you'll see what I mean:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Booth_deringer.jpg

Certainly the first gun seems to be in far worse shape than the second, but an expert could tell you if its of any value. Good luck.

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Thanks for your responses. I have some other pictures. Thanks for the advice regarding the Black Power Section.



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Do I see the words "MADE IN ITALY" stamped on the barrel just forward of the trigger guard in that last pic? Looks like it might be a nice replica.

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Holy mackerel, Hood!! What wonderful finds. Those are great looking old guns.

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The bottom one is a Piladelphia Derringer. The might be a repo by CVA. It was a kit. I cannot tell by the pictures. It might be real if it is it is a real prize. It was the gun John Wilkes Booth use to assassinate Lincoln.
Google Image Result for http://www.muzzle.de/N5/Vorderlader/Philadelphia_Derringer/muzzle_vl_philderr_re02.jpg

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The Derringer looks like a reproduction. 'Deringer' only one 'r' is the correct spelling. Reproductions okrkit guns are spelled with 2 r's.
Nice find however. I would get them appraised regardless if they are authentic or not and keep them. After all, they are hand me downs from a family member and memories are not replaceable.

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Sorry new girl in the joint ... absolutely No.1, 2 and 3 all "cap and ball" pistols ca. Napoleonic period. No.1 flintlock conversion .. No.3 looks like its had its barrel cut down I guess to facilitate concealment. What I think is interesting is that all three are "regular" folk's weapons, nothing fancy .. just work a day personal defense tools. I know in many of your states you can just go to your local sporting shop and purchase black powder, caps and bullets without having a permit .... but just don't even think about it! Quite a few similar turn up at militaria sales over here in the UK and Ireland.

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I actually live near to Waterloo.

Thanks for all your comments. I will take them to a few specialists. Most probably replicas.

I also founds some knives with swastikas on it. It looks like they are from WW1. Jeez, I have to go up the attic again

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