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Old 05-20-2016, 01:01 PM   #1
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I think safeties on most guns are about as helpful as tits on a boar hog. The ONLY time use a safety is if I'm carrying a 1911 "cocked and locked", but . . . I know, I know, this goes against established doctrine and training -- I carry in condition two. I'm just comfortable thumbing the hammer back. I don't advise it, but I'm too old to worry about changing now.

But back to safeties. I can't tell you the number of times I"ve had a customer NOT want to purchase a gun because it didn't have a frame safety. "It's not safe", they say, " it could go off by accident". How, pray tell, can, say, a S&W Bodyguard .380, with a trigger pull that only a stevedore could like and a travel distance equal to that between Houston and El Paso go off "by accident"? For "safety" concerns (meaning making the manufactuers safe from lawsuits) most small autos have long, heavy trigger pulls. (Give me a 1911, I'll sign the waiver).

IMO, all a safety can do is confuse you when you need the gun in a hurry.
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Old 05-20-2016, 01:20 PM   #2
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Manual safeties are obsolete on modern weapons.

The only EFFECTIVE safety on any weapon is your booger picker.
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Manual safeties are obsolete on modern weapons.

The only EFFECTIVE safety on any weapon is your booger picker.
Yep. Keep the finger off the trigger.
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On my fire arms that have safeties I use them, why... idk because they are there. On my long guns I also use my saftey also just because it's there. Do I rely on it to save somthing, no that's why I keep my finger off the trigger.

My opinion on safeties slowing someone down or endangering them because they don't take it off.... if your not smart enough to operate a lever you should not own a deadly weapon. If you are also over come with that much panic you probly ain't gonna hit what you need to anyway.

I prefer a handgun not to have a external safety.
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Your brain is the only safety that you really need. You can't make up for the lack of a brain with a mechanical device.
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Anyone can accidentally drop a loaded firearm. A firing pin locking safety can make a real difference in that case. Otherwise I agree with the responses above.
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And to add to locutus's great comment! That would be to carry it in a safe holster protecting the trigger from snagging on items by accident no matter where one carries their weapon.

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I think safeties on most guns are about as helpful as tits on a boar hog. The ONLY time use a safety is if I'm carrying a 1911 "cocked and locked", but . . . I know, I know, this goes against established doctrine and training -- I carry in condition two. I'm just comfortable thumbing the hammer back. I don't advise it, but I'm too old to worry about changing now.
Please allow me to chime in.

A safety is an additional piece of hardware that (hopefully) avoids "accidental" discharge. Some designs did not originally have them, but the end user wanted it added (the history of the 1911 is a good reference).

Condition 2 (for those who are not aware) is normally a condition that is not recommended for the 1911. This is a round in the chamber, slide in lock-up, and the hammer down on the firing pin. The only way to do that is to carefully pull the trigger to allow the hammer to move forward. Why is that carry not recommended? One slip of the hammer in the process of lowering can result in a discharge and a banged up thumb. And the chances that one's thumb slips increases with age and practice.
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I agree about manual safeties. I'd only use one if I carried a 1911 (which I don't). My HKUSP 45 has a manual safety that I never use. It has a decocker & a 12-lb. D.A. trigger, so the safety is as useless as it would be on a D.A. revolver. I'm used to keeping my finger outside the trigger guard unless I'm shooting.
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Manual safeties for guns in single action for cocked and locked carry make sense. DA/SA guns may have a Decocker to put it into DA mode for safety against accidental discharge. They could also have a manual safety to give an option for cocked and locked carry on SA mode.

Striker fired guns which have a trigger that performs the final cocking don't really need a manual safety

My 1911s and CZ75 may get carried with the hammer cocked and safety on. Sig p220 carried with a loaded chamber and hammer decocked. Glock and M&P loaded chamber and in a good holster with the trigger covered.
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