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Old 11-27-2012, 04:53 PM   #41
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Sometime in the last few weeks, I recall someone saying "I wouldn't carry a DA/SA for CCW". That got me scratching my head.

Other than the different trigger pull on the first shot, what's not to like about a DA/SA for personal protection and carry?
Overthinking. It's a gun forum, people must argue over minute esoteric points.
How many different armed forces and law enforcement agencies (both of whom tend to attract the lowest common denominator) throughout the world have issued/still issue DA/SA pistols? How big of a handicap are they really? Anyone who practices with one for will eventually adjust to whatever peculiarities their particular pistol has.
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Training with what you are comfortable with is where it's at ,and when you're comfortable with you're training do some more training.
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DA/SA gives you resistance in the first shot that may help avoid an "accidental" or negligent discharge. But it takes practice, because if you only practice by cocking the gun for the first shot, when the SHTF, if you fire the first shot double action you may pull the shot down and to the left (if you shoot right-handed). Because the extra effort in pulling the trigger may result in a sudden absence of resistance when the hammer is released, and the extra force will slam the trigger back and pull the gun down and to the left. Not a happy event if you shoot a bystander in the leg. But with practice you can know what to expect and retain a firm grip and steady aim when the gun fires.
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The only problem I have with DA/SA is trying to explain it to newbies. It's confusing to talk about..especially in print, like a forum.
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When my department converted from revolvers to semiautos, I trained over 100 officers in Da/Sa fire.

Most mastered it in 100 rounds, some took as much as 200. But not a single one failed to master it.

The drill was simple. Load two rounds in all of your magazines. Load the weapon, drop the hammer and flick the safety off. Holster.

On command, draw and fire two rounds, rapid fire.

Repeat this drill 50 times. A very easy technique to learn.

Jeffie Cooper's old "krunchenticker" krap is absolute bullsh!t.
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When my department converted from revolvers to semiautos, I trained over 100 officers in Da/Sa fire.

Most mastered it in 100 rounds, some took as much as 200. But not a single one failed to master it.

The drill was simple. Load two rounds in all of your magazines. Load the weapon, drop the hammer and flick the safety off. Holster.

On command, draw and fire two rounds, rapid fire.

Repeat this drill 50 times. A very easy technique to learn.

Jeffie Cooper's old "krunchenticker" krap is absolute bullsh!t.
Thanks! That's a great way to get accustomed to DA/SA!
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I have two DA/SA pistols and luv that capability. I still have to master getting off that first shot in DA mode accurately however, i need more range time to perfect that skill,
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I have two DA/SA pistols and luv that capability. I still have to master getting off that first shot in DA mode accurately however, i need more range time to perfect that skill,


When I first started learning to fire a revolver DA--rapid fire, it took over a thousand rounds of live fire, and many hours of dry fire. But my life depended on it, so I learned it.

DA/SA isn't half as hard to learn as DAO.
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When I first started learning to fire a revolver DA--rapid fire, it took over a thousand rounds of live fire, and many hours of dry fire. But my life depended on it, so I learned it.

DA/SA isn't half as hard to learn as DAO.
Actually when you think about it, it's exactly half as hard.
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Actually when you think about it, it's exactly half as hard.
No, I disagree with your math. If shooting my cz 75 it would be 1/19th as hard. One in the chamber, d/a followed by 18 s/a....right ??
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