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Old 01-26-2014, 09:31 PM   #101
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Lots of people do need a handi-racker. There has to be a way to get the word out that it is available. Right here it's going to be a tough sell. Most of the users in a firearms forum have strong hands.

A couple years ago I picked up a broken Kel Tec P11. I fixed the gun and expected to sell it quick for $150. I put a sign in the Home Depot break room. Several people who are working at Home Depot came and looked at the gun. All of them had problems racking the slide on the P11. If people who lift heavy stuff all day have problems racking a slide the problem is more widespread than any of us might imagine.

I think it's true of lots of Guns John!
My issue is only Part time(if my Nerve issues are acting up, usually In the Cold,..) Otherwise I'm still Pretty good,..
My Better Half, However, Must wear 2 Braces and Gloves on a Bad day just to shoot her Buckmark..
I'm used to lubing Arms to make the actions "Smoother" and easier to operate. She's always liked Revolvers More then Autos anyway...but that should not stop her from shooting them and enjoying them when she wants to...
And: she HATES 2 Things!: One,..when Women show up at the Range Dressed "Improperly", and When Companies Market "Down" to Women...(Pink & Purple Grips!)
Don't Know How Yours Feels about those issues...

As for the Kel-Tec's : They Have some "Great" designs, But Like I said to Their Reps "what good is that when we can't get them anywhere, and when we can,..they are "Double to Triple" the MSRP!..plus they removed a few designs from the market place(The RMR-30 for one)..
That Being what it is,..if CDNN really Has PF-9's & P11's in Stock with Different Color combos,..I'd Love a Gray Frame & Dark Slide P11, and a Messload of Std. & Ext. Mags...

I had been Playing around with different Springs on the LC9(#16 is Std.) in #14, #18, & #20...I wound up putting in a replacement #16... If you have more then 2500 Rds. Through your LCP, I'd suggest a new Spring, even if you don't need one....
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I think most women feel the same way, but buy them anyway...which is fine if they are serious shooters and not wearing one to look cool....

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I like that idea , but in the heat of the moment Im sure id lose track.
It's a skill (counting) which takes patience, but once you

get used to it, you find it helps develop patience, gives

you a rough idea of passed time and proportion, also round counts,

loaded mags,etc.
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I think most women feel the same way, but buy them anyway...which is fine if they are serious shooters and not wearing one to look cool....

But you heard what the Gal who is a Trainer In Seattle Said(Guns N Lace): "if it gets women in to learn to shoot and Carry for SD(self Defense)...."
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CDNN is like a plague to the market place. They advertise everything at half price when they might have two items in stock. I have gotten to the point that I don't even read CDNN's flyers any more. I can advertise guns at half price when I only have two dented/damaged guns in stock.

I called CDNN to ask about a gun. The salesman said out of stock. I asked him about a couple other guns, they were out of stock. I finally asked him do you have any guns in the same price range in stock? He hung up the phone.

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CDNN is like a plague to the market place. They advertise everything at half price when they might have two items in stock. I have gotten to the point that I don't even read CDNN's flyers any more. I can advertise guns at half price when I only have two dented/damaged guns in stock.

I called CDNN to ask about a gun. The salesman said out of stock. I asked him about a couple other guns, they were out of stock. I finally asked him do you have any guns in the same price range in stock? He hung up the phone.

I remember you Posting that a Few Weeks ago. I have never Bought a Gun from them, But Want to Order the GSG-AK-22..
I have never gotten an "Out Of stock" on Mags or accessories until this last time(No M1A/M-14 mags of any Type in Stock)..
They get around it by saying that you need to call for current stock on ANYTHING(catalog Flyers and Shotgun News Ads might not be accurate!) which to me is BS,..but hey thats how they do biz.....If there was anyone else I wouldn't bother with them...
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One handed cocking pistols should be quite common. Its a useful feature and the tech is already well known and is no longer patent protected I think. Carrying a semi with a round chambered is not exactly safe. Being bumped or dropping the pistol can cause the round to fire.

Examples of one handed cocking pistols are the Lignose Einhander 2A.
for concealed carry.

the 3A for non concealed or concealed "if you got big enough pockets" carry.

The Joloar which has a lever and the barrel flips open so you can easily clean it or remove the unspent or spent last round. This was used by cavarly men in South America since it was safer to use then any other semi auto. Semi autos if they were chambered would go off due to all the movements of the horse. Plus the gloves that were worn made it incredibly difficult to wield a semi auto with a trigger guard.

The Norinco Model 77 and the exported Model 77B which fires 9mm. which shows the Model 77B being cocked.

People should demand one handed cocking pistols being produced not just for safety issues but because they are easier to use for those with various issues such as not having a hand or not being able to use a hand.

Otherwise a person has to customize their handgun which if you want a very good one could wind up costing a lot of money.

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Had a Staff Sergeant teach us a few ways to keep an auto loader in a fight.

Hooking the rear sight on a belt edge or tip of a boot sole's dress edge. To reload we would turn the pistol butt forward and tuck it in the belt to change mags. If the slide was locked to the rear at that point then you could pull the slide back in the same manner to get the pistol recharged or you could use teh slide release. This method works with pistols with exposed hammers or with striker fired pistols. You do however need to be cautious and very muzzle aware. If you shoot where there are tables , benches or counters, you could invert the pistol and charge with the muzzle pointing down range and hook teh sight on the table or bench edge and drive the frame forward.

You do need to have a sturdy rear sight for this method and it has to have enough of a shelved face on it to get good purchase on the lip of whatever you are using for charging it. Novak and low snag sights do not work well for this method.

Another option is to have a gunsmith install a charging handle in a dovetail on your slide. Some competition pistols run a type of charging handle in place of the rear sight, when red dot optics are used. Or there is this version that attaches at the rear of a Glock slide:
http://www.amazon.com/ATI-Tactical-Reloading-Cocking-Charging/dp/B004KM04WI
While these methods of charging a pistol in a firefight could be helpful, it makes no sense for plinking. Being safe with a firearm trumps any other issue. It may sound cold, but I think that the OP needs to use a firearm that is suited to his condition and not develop a shooting technique that includes movements that are, or could be unsafe, and could get him or someone else shot.
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While these methods of charging a pistol in a firefight could be helpful, it makes no sense for plinking. Being safe with a firearm trumps any other issue. It may sound cold, but I think that the OP needs to use a firearm that is suited to his condition and not develop a shooting technique that includes movements that are, or could be unsafe, and could get him or someone else shot.
Just stating that there are methods for getting it done with existing designs. Making a "cocking block" that mounts to a shooting bench could allow similar methods for charging a pistol safely at a range for plinking and target shooting. My annectdote was more of an illustration that thinking outside the box of established operation may yet provide a safe option for employing existing designs.
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I like the rear sight on my Glock because it makes it easy to cock the gun with one hand. I don't mind the polo goal either. I need another front sight for the Glock. Having to cover the target with the front sight destroys my accuracy.

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