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captken 01-12-2013 01:47 AM

Cartridge with no powder
What would happen to a handgun if you fired a cartridge that was primed but had no powder? Revolver or semi auto.

Would the bullet be stuck in the barrel?
If the bullet is stuck, would it take a gunsmith to remove it?

What would happen if you cycled the action and fired another live round?

danf_fl 01-12-2013 01:56 AM

Welcome to the Forum! If you haven't yet, stop in our "Introductions" area.

Now, back to the question.
The bullet may get stuck, or go through.
It does not take a smith to clear only one bullet should one get stuck. It is called a squib load and there are rods available to purchase (everyone should have one).

If a live round is fired when the barrel is obstructed by another, the barrel may bulge, the barrel may split, the firearm will have to be checked out by a smith before anymore shooting takes place with it.

c3shooter 01-12-2013 01:56 AM

It happens. Known as a squib load. Nasty. Primer will usually drive the bullet out of the case, onto the start of the rifling. If a bit of powder burns, will push bullet into barrel.

What happens next? Depends. In some cses, you will burst the barrel with a second shot. In others, you will create a "wedding ring" bulge- a raised ring all the way around the barrel just before the obstruction. In a few cases, nothing happens.

How do you get a stuck bullet out? Padded vise, brass rod, hammer. Warming barrel with a heat gun can help it expand just a smidge, can loosen the bullet just a little.

trip286 01-12-2013 01:56 AM

If the primer is powerful enough, then yes, the bullet will become lodged in the barrel.

Once upon a time, I saw a revolver fired with no powder. The bullet protruded from the cylinder just enough to lock it up. It was taken to a smith, but with the right tools, this can be handled in the living room.

If a bullet becomes lodged in a barrel, due to insufficient charge (known as a squib round), do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT attempt to fire another round. Hi ho, hi ho, off to the smith you go. Unless you can get behind the bullet and push it on through with a rod. Then check for damage, which is another job that is well to be left to a smith considering the circumstances.

trip286 01-12-2013 01:58 AM

Ha! This time you beat me to it! Wanna go another round? ;)

captken 01-12-2013 02:03 AM

Ok, here is why I asked. I had an idea of the answer.
Why not take thousands of rounds of this ammo with no power and scatter it in gang banger territory? Surely they wouldn't take their gun to a gunsmith.

I have a devious mind.

Rick1967 01-12-2013 02:03 AM

I had a round barely enter the barrel of my 8mm mauser. There was powder in the case but it did not burn. Old WWII ammo. I was able to gently tap it back to the reciever with a cleaning rod and a piece of wood.

danf_fl 01-12-2013 02:09 AM

Did you notice how all the great minds think alike?

Then Rick comes in with the easy fix. (j/k)

25-5 01-12-2013 02:14 AM

I had it happen once in my 629. A .44 special with large pistol primer pushed the lead bullet into the rifling of the barrel. Just far enough past the cylinder. I used a wooden dowel and a hammer and it came right out.
You know right away. Luckily brain got message to finger in time. As previously described a second shot very bad news.

Donn 01-12-2013 02:30 AM

Had this happen more than once with a batch of bad 9mm ammo. When the case was empty, the primer just popped. One had a dash of powder in it, just enough to send the bullet about halfway down the bore and cycle the slide. Fortunately, it sounded odd enough I checked the bore before touching off another round.

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