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Old 06-23-2014, 03:59 AM   #1
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I live in Pennsylvania, around the Philadelphia area, and I want to buy a handgun. I was thinking either a glock 19 or a witness. Going to the shooting range is a hobby of mine but the bill at the end really adds up when i don't own my own firearm and bullets. Can someone please help me out regarding the process of buying and carrying a handgun (glock or a witness) and bullets (9MM).

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Old 06-23-2014, 04:08 AM   #2
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PENNSYLVANIA
“The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall
not be questioned.”

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Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
Office of the Attorney General
Strawberry Square
Harrisburg, PA 17120
(717) 787-3391


Prohibited Areas (state)

Courthouses T.18 §913
Public and private school property T.18 §913
Casinos (If posted) §465.14
Correctional institution or any building/land appurtenant thereto. 61 Pa. Consol. Stat. Ann. § 5902.
The Capitol Complex: Including all leased premises of the Department. Pa. Code tit. 49, § 61.3
Mental hospital. 18 Pa. Consol. Stat. Ann. § 5122
Prohibited Areas (federal)

Airport secure areas (49 CFR § 1540.111(a))
Post Offices (18 USC § 930, 39 CFR § 232.1)
Federal buildings (including prisons, courthouses, and Army Corps of Engineers) (18 USC § 930, 36 CFR § 327.13)
A private residence if notice is given (verbal/posted sign)
Military bases (18 USC § 930)
National cemeteries (38 C.F.R. § 1.218(a)(13))
Any area designated secure or otherwise prohibited by State or Federal Law

Duty To Retreat
NO. A person has NO duty to retreat if: 1.The actor has the right to be in the place where he is attacked, 2.The actor believes it is immediately necessary to do so to protect himself against death, serious bodily injury, kidnapping, or sexual intercourse by force or threat; AND, 3.The person against whom the force is used displays or otherwise uses: 1.A firearm or replica firearm, or 2.Any other weapon readily or apparently capable of lethal use. 18 PACSA §505
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Vehicles: Pennsylvania law provides that "any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle…without a valid and lawfully issued license…commits a felony." 18 Pa.Cons. Stat. Ann. § 6106(a).
Age Restrictions: Subject to certain exceptions, a person under the age of 18 shall not possess or transport a firearm anywhere in the Commonwealth. 18 Pa. Cons. Stat. Ann. §6110.1(a).
Hunting: It is lawful for any person who possesses a valid license to carry a firearm issued under 18 Pa.C.S. § 6109 to carry that firearm while hunting (including bow hunting) in Pennsylvania. T. 34 §2525
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Pretty broad question there my friend, need to start doing some homework, a gun store can take you through the purchase requirements, here is a good place to start for handgun law and CCW's.... http://www.handgunlaw.us/
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Thanks folks, I appreciate it. MisterMCcool, so my next step would be to call that number you provided me with ?
I tried getting some help regarding carrying a firearm from people calling themselves master firearm instructors. I got no useful feedback beyond safety measures, so i started teaching myself. They seemed to not care enough about what I need as much as how much i can pay. I keep trying to locate someone new, but bottoms line is I have a year to teach myself everything i can, so I would appreciate all the help i can get.

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Sure, call them or the local police/sheriff's office.


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Why do you "have a year to teach myself everything I can"? Like that is all you have? What happens after that year? And why a Glock or a Witness? Those aren't guns most people would pair for their 'either/or' on ownership. And how old are you? Do you have any experience shooting anything, ever? And as for buying a gun, well, you walk into a gun store, you fill out a form, your background is checked, and if you pass you pay and leave with a gun. As for bullets, buy some. All it takes is money. Lastly, I can assure you, there is nothing inexpensive about shooting. It's not cheap.

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Indy36, Thats a long List of questions. I'll answer a couple of them though. I am 22 years old. As for the choice of firearm, I am trying to find someone to teach me how to carry and efficiently use all type of weapons (firearms, rifles, shotguns) but handguns are of the utmost priority because I can use it to end a situation other than catalyze it. Glock because i like the weight, witness because i like how it absorbs recoil.

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I owned a Witness way back in time. No fun to carry around. Too big, too heavy. I have owned and competed with several Glocks. They just don't fit my hand. My advice, pick up and hold as many guns as you can prior to buying one. Also, give thought to what your primary reason for owning a gun is...meaning a 'range target' gun vs. 'daily carry' gun for example. Small guns that carry well tend to be less fun on the range (short barrels = less accuracy / more snappy recoil) while full-size heavy guns with long barrels are more accurate and fun to shoot but tend to pull your pants down while carrying. There is no 'one perfect gun' that meets all objectives. That's why we own lots of guns. They are like shoes. Sometimes you need a work boot (Glock) and other times you need a running shoe (Sig P238) and sometimes you need a dress shoe (Ed Brown 1911). Remember this, always buy the best shoe you can afford. Save up and buy quality. I get tired of the 'what's the best gun I can buy for under $200' threads. Your life is worth more than sub $200, plus, it feels good owning something nice. As for training, I'd help you if I lived where you do but I'm not in that state. Best wishes, stay eager to learn and polite and someone will help you.


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If you're not set on getting a Glock, I think of the S&W M&P as a Glock with ergonomics for the human hand.

For carry and daily use, you will probably want something that's smaller than a full size pistol (because they're more difficult to conceal) and larger than a sub compact size pistol (because they're more difficult to control).

The Glock 19 or M&P Compact fit the bill. Both are available in 9MM Luger. Both are reasonably priced. Try them both. If you still want the Glock, then get the Glock. If not, the M&P definitely has better ergonomics.

Ammunition is available from Wal-Mart, Academy, the gun stores, and online.

The online prices are generally the best if you shoot in any volume.

Do read up on your state's laws first. Do attend a safety course first. Do attend a first aid and CPR course. Do get some hand-to-hand and edged weapons combat training. Do purchase a safe of some kind for your pistol if you don't already have one. Try to get some firearms training with your pistol as soon as possible after you purchase it.

As previously stated, the pistol, ammunition, training, and sufficient practice are not inexpensive.
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Indy36, Kbd512, thank you for your advice they are very helpful. Kbd512 i don't know if smith and Wesson's M&Ps are better than the glocks or not, but I am on their website right now and they are such a beauty they make me want to swear.

One step at a time, first i have to find an instructor, and keep an eye on all the things you guys already mentioned.
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