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Old 11-11-2010, 08:39 PM   #21
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Well I decided to wait until the flury of replies had slowed down before posting again.

First off THANK YOU for everyone's feedback. I learned a lot from all the comments.

My initial intent was to get some basic feedback as to different types of guns, and stuff to look out for during my search. And that is exactly what I got. I realize that I could ask 10 different gun owners, and get 10 potentially different answers; just like I could ask stereo speaker owners or plasma TV owners etc. and get different answers as to what is best for my situation. And that is fine, because along with those answers, come reasons why.

I know replies and opinions do not take the place of holding and firing. I simply wanted to narrow down my list or add to it. And that is what I have done. I plan to head out to the gunshop tonight and shoot a variety of guns. I'll go from there.

I'll post again once I make some progress.

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Smart move

You'll quickly figure out which feels the best after firing them all...
you'll naturally return to the ones you like the best

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Sorry for the late entry but couldn't let the thread go without a recommendation for the Springfield XD or XDm 9mm. The XD comes in many configurations, from a full frame 5" tactical down to a 3.5" sub-compact, and capacities and should fit in well with your price and size parameters. Full size XD holds 16+1, XDm is 19+1...lots of firepower.

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A few others to consider and I enjoy (shoot and carry often). The FNH FNP-9 mine is a .40 cal, the 9mm is the same size, it's a DA/SA with a decocker, exchangable back straps to better fit your hand, mine doesn't have a safety but believe you can get them with one. The other would be a S&W M&P, mine is a .45, the 9mm is about the same size or you can get the compact. It's striker fired, exchangable back straps to better fit your hand, mine doesn't have a safety but it is available with one. I carry the M&P most often as it fits me well and I shoot better with it. I prefer a full size pistol and have never found it to be an issue to CC. When I started to look at polly frame pistols it took awhile before I found one I liked, I expect I rented almost everyone on the market while it cost me some coin it was worth the expense and effort. First came the FNP and thought I found a good fit, a year latter I found the M&P it was a better fit. Been my carry choice now for several years now.

Take your time and find the handgun that fits you well, the expense and time are well worth it. It's all about what fits your ability, your hand and intended use for the firearm. I expect budget fits in there as well but should never be a primary consideration. Put off the purchase until you can afford the firearm that fits you.

I would suggest paying for some professional instruction before you buy, you will learn a lot about firearms, shooting and the intend use of a firearm. That will help you make a better choice for you need and will make latter trips to the range for more enjoyable simply because you will have the confidance/training to work your firearm like the tool it is.

Let us know what you decide to get

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Sorry for the late entry but couldn't let the thread go without a recommendation for the Springfield XD or XDm 9mm. The XD comes in many configurations, from a full frame 5" tactical down to a 3.5" sub-compact, and capacities and should fit in well with your price and size parameters. Full size XD holds 16+1, XDm is 19+1...lots of firepower.

Good luck
Yup, I actually had added the Springfield XD to my list. I held it in the shop tonight, but didn't have a chance to shoot it. Will try to shoot it next time I go.
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A few others to consider and I enjoy (shoot and carry often). The FNH FNP-9 mine is a .40 cal, the 9mm is the same size, it's a DA/SA with a decocker, exchangable back straps to better fit your hand, mine doesn't have a safety but believe you can get them with one. The other would be a S&W M&P, mine is a .45, the 9mm is about the same size or you can get the compact. It's striker fired, exchangable back straps to better fit your hand, mine doesn't have a safety but it is available with one. I carry the M&P most often as it fits me well and I shoot better with it. I prefer a full size pistol and have never found it to be an issue to CC. When I started to look at polly frame pistols it took awhile before I found one I liked, I expect I rented almost everyone on the market while it cost me some coin it was worth the expense and effort. First came the FNP and thought I found a good fit, a year latter I found the M&P it was a better fit. Been my carry choice now for several years now.

Take your time and find the handgun that fits you well, the expense and time are well worth it. It's all about what fits your ability, your hand and intended use for the firearm. I expect budget fits in there as well but should never be a primary consideration. Put off the purchase until you can afford the firearm that fits you.

I would suggest paying for some professional instruction before you buy, you will learn a lot about firearms, shooting and the intend use of a firearm. That will help you make a better choice for you need and will make latter trips to the range for more enjoyable simply because you will have the confidance/training to work your firearm like the tool it is.

Let us know what you decide to get
I'll post later about my shooting experience tonight but I did want to point out (in case I forgot later), that I do plan on getting some instruction. They offer a one on one session for $45 where they teach the basics, safety etc. as well as maintaining and cleaning your actual gun. Pretty cool. I also want to take a legal class of some sort; to understand the actual laws in my state. e.g. do I have a legal right to shoot someone in my house? on my property? can I take my gun in a state store? in a bar? etc.

I'm taking this all very seriously.
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UPDATE.. BACK FROM THE RANGE

I headed out to the gun shop and range last night with my listing of 9 or so guns. I showed the salesman my list and we spent some time holding a whole bunch of them. I held most of the guns mentioned on the forum although some they didn't have (various Kahrs, CZ75, and older guns like Sig 228 and S&W 3913). I held the Glock 19, Glock 26, Springfield XD, Ruger SR9 and SR9C, Sig Sauer 239, and Walther P99. I can't say I disliked any of them, but I did take notice to the much higher price of the Sig and Walther..which I had been warned about by some of you.

I far preferred the Glock 19 to the 26, and the Ruger SR9C to the SR9. I liked the Springfield. I liked the Walther but it was pricey at 650.

Based on that, we headed downstairs to the range. I was with a friend who is looking as well. They made us shoot a .22 first and we did well so we moved up to a 9mm. We tested the Glock 19 since that was high on my list. I really liked it. We then rented a Glock 23, basically so we could compare 9mm to .40 since my friend was thinking of getting a .40. I must say I preferred the 9mm but it wasn't a huge difference. My shot placement was better with the 19. They had a Springfield (but not a Ruger SR9C) but we ran out of time.

So I am heavily leaning towards the Glock 19 at this point. Basically b/c I liked the way it felt in my hand, the way it shot, the reliability of Glock, the great reviews, the ease of parts/maintenance, etc. With that said, I will likely go back and try to fire the Springfield XD to compare.

The Glock was $540, the Springfield $525, the Ruger $420, and the Walther $650. So for now, I'm ruling out the Walther based on price and the fact that I can't rent one. I'm ruling out the Ruger since I can't test it. I realize I could probably go to other ranges, try to find them, and test them. But at this point, I really like the Glock and want to compare to the Springfield. I figure this is likely not going to be my only gun so for future guns, I can spend more time tracking them down, borrowing, testing etc. when I get my next one.

Also, they did have a couple used Glock 19s (around $470) but at that small price difference between used and new, I'm leaning towards new.

For those that mentioned safety and training, they also offer a one on one training/safety class which I am going to take once I make the purchase. I also want to take a legal class of some sort to fully understand the gun laws of my state.

So that is my thought process and position for now. Thoughts welcome.

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UPDATE.. BACK FROM THE RANGE

I headed out to the gun shop and range last night with my listing of 9 or so guns. I showed the salesman my list and we spent some time holding a whole bunch of them. I held most of the guns mentioned on the forum although some they didn't have (various Kahrs, CZ75, and older guns like Sig 228 and S&W 3913). I held the Glock 19, Glock 26, Springfield XD, Ruger SR9 and SR9C, Sig Sauer 239, and Walther P99. I can't say I disliked any of them, but I did take notice to the much higher price of the Sig and Walther..which I had been warned about by some of you.

I far preferred the Glock 19 to the 26, and the Ruger SR9C to the SR9. I liked the Springfield. I liked the Walther but it was pricey at 650.

Based on that, we headed downstairs to the range. I was with a friend who is looking as well. They made us shoot a .22 first and we did well so we moved up to a 9mm. We tested the Glock 19 since that was high on my list. I really liked it. We then rented a Glock 23, basically so we could compare 9mm to .40 since my friend was thinking of getting a .40. I must say I preferred the 9mm but it wasn't a huge difference. My shot placement was better with the 19. They had a Springfield (but not a Ruger SR9C) but we ran out of time.

So I am heavily leaning towards the Glock 19 at this point. Basically b/c I liked the way it felt in my hand, the way it shot, the reliability of Glock, the great reviews, the ease of parts/maintenance, etc. With that said, I will likely go back and try to fire the Springfield XD to compare.

The Glock was $540, the Springfield $525, the Ruger $420, and the Walther $650. So for now, I'm ruling out the Walther based on price and the fact that I can't rent one. I'm ruling out the Ruger since I can't test it. I realize I could probably go to other ranges, try to find them, and test them. But at this point, I really like the Glock and want to compare to the Springfield. I figure this is likely not going to be my only gun so for future guns, I can spend more time tracking them down, borrowing, testing etc. when I get my next one.

Also, they did have a couple used Glock 19s (around $470) but at that small price difference between used and new, I'm leaning towards new.

For those that mentioned safety and training, they also offer a one on one training/safety class which I am going to take once I make the purchase. I also want to take a legal class of some sort to fully understand the gun laws of my state.

So that is my thought process and position for now. Thoughts welcome.
It sounds like you had it pretty well covered. Might I suggest you take a look at a PF-9 or possibly a P-11, but made by Kel-Tec. They do come with a no questions asked lifetime warranty and are both fairly cheap at around $300 NIB.

What makes you like the Glock 19 more than the 26 (out of curiosity)?

Just my .02
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It sounds like you had it pretty well covered. Might I suggest you take a look at a PF-9 or possibly a P-11, but made by Kel-Tec. They do come with a no questions asked lifetime warranty and are both fairly cheap at around $300 NIB.

What makes you like the Glock 19 more than the 26 (out of curiosity)?

Just my .02
Basically the way it fit in my hand. The 19 was just more comfortable. My pinky didn't fit on the grip. I realize they make "pinky extension"? magazines but for out of the box feel, I preferred the 19. And I figure the 19 would have a bit less recoil due to weight. I'm sure I'd get used to either one.
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It sounds like you've thought out your purchase and are conducting your research very well.

Do give the XD a chance. I like XDs, though personally, I prefer Glocks. But there are a couple of personal-preference-type differences between Glocks and XDs that cause a lot of people to prefer one over the other. So you owe it to yourself to compare them.

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