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Old 01-18-2011, 06:56 PM   #21
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But what about the danger of 'splash' on innocent bystanders?
Collateral damage is, unfortunately, inevitable.


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Good thinking SS. Indirect fire is a good option to have.

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Versatility is really the key here. For a primary weapon I'd probably outfit 50% of my floor-level team with Saiga 12's (25rd drum fed, of course), and the other 50% with SCARs. This affords you both the options of overwhelming force as well as precision fire. That said, it only works if you've got a couple of qualified spotters/shooters in the rafters. A friend of mine worked the high side on a team for a time (they're called BATMEN in the industry, as I'm sure you're aware). Anyway, he found the 6.8spc to be the round of choice for this sort of work.

Make sure you get run-flats on your golf carts/segways. It's a common oversight that often renders your mobile aggression tools obsolete.

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I think we've overlooked one of the most important part of any retail operator's arsenal: silencers.
You're going to need suppressors on EVERYTHING. Think about it; hundreds if not thousands of people in a single structure with maybe 10 exits? When the gunfire erupts, the stampede for the door could claim more lives than the firefight itself. AND with all the commotion at the door, you have no viable means of egress to go after any getaway drivers. Suppressors are a must.

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But what about the danger of 'splash' on innocent bystanders?
its a sacrifice i would be willing for the innocent to make. you can always get some of those paintball grenade launchers:


Rocket Propelled Grenade Paintball Launcher (RPG)


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This is shoulder-launched and require two people to operate efficiently in the middle of a fire fight. The system can operate with both CO2 and compressed air, and air can be attached by a remote line. This launcher is easy to operate and maintain, operating most efficiently at 200psi...with minimum air consumption.

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just load that puppy up with a hot steaming bag of monkey feces and no mall rat will dare challange your segway powered justice.
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Gotta agree on the suppressors all-around; can't be causing a panic in these tight economic times.

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its a sacrifice i would be willing for the innocent to make.
That one line might be the most cleverly hilarious quote I've ever read on these boards.

...a sacrifice I would be willing for them to make. How noble of you. It's like some weird form of political poetry.

Well done Jon.
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I think it depends. Are you going to be one of the lamenecks loping around the mall busting kids for riding their 'wheelies' shoes and moving people from the fire lane or a real tactical response guy? For the regular, busting teenage smokers and giving old ladies directions to the hair salon, any holster queen will do.

Now, if you are going to be part of a three man Fast Action Response Team in a major retail center, you will need some serious firepower. You'll need to cover every angle. Body armor, long distance threat neutralization weapons, CQB guns, certainly a suppressed threat eliminator, and an everyday repertoire of ultra reliable handguns.

You should consider some serious MMA training as well as getting scuba qualified in the event the venue has a large water feature. Consider some driving courses in the event you need to use the security golfcart to run down a perp. Do not take the job of potentially saving the Governor's nephew from child predators lightly.

Don't expect ticker tape parades. This is a job for the humblest of men. Getting into the line of fire for civilians who may never know your sacrifice is just part of it.

Good luck with your new endeavor. There are lots of experienced operators on the internet that can guide you along the way.



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