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bsdavis4296 10-15-2012 05:33 PM

Best 9mm hollowpoint ammo?
 
I am the new owner of a Beretta 92sb compact. I am a lot more used to long arms, and haven't dealt with an automatic pistol or 9mm ever. Right now, the mag is loaded (alternating) with glaser safety slugs and hollow points (I don't know what kind) I have read a lot about the safety slugs and want to keep them, but the hollow points, I think, will be replaced. I want maximum carnage with minimum penetration. It needs to stop invaders cold, without me having to worry about the round hitting someone in the next room.

Thanks for the help!

nosaj 10-15-2012 05:48 PM

You bought a loaded gun?

Keep the hollow points

guncollector 10-15-2012 05:57 PM

there is no magic bullet the handgun has it's limitations . if you want to stop someone cold get a shot gun. for one shot stops the 9mm is rated in the lower 90% range and of course this depends alot on shot placement . some of the better loads for a 9mm corbon 115 grain jhp, double tap , hornady critrical defence . the size or caliber is secondary to shot placement . google ammo stopping power and look at some results . this is all very subjective and opens the door to alot of debate. you'll hear from the 45 1911 people , the 357 magnum people . the shotgun people etc..... remember it is what it is . as long as you've picked the 9mm as the caliber of choice for you , learn to live with it , practice and then practice some more. 2 shots center mass.

guncollector 10-15-2012 06:03 PM

9mm - This was the first semiauto pistol to be used extensively by police agencies and replaced the 38 Special and 357 Magnum round. Early loadings of the 147 grain round caused major stopping problems however current 147 grain designs are vastly superior. Clearly the best 9mm loads are those driven to +P+ pressures. Of the 20 loadings evaluated, the top load was the Federal 115 grain JHP +P+ involved in 209 shootings with 190 one shot stops for a 91% rating. The Winchester 115 grain JHP +P+ and 127 grain Ranger SXT +P+ both had 90% one shot stops. All five loads driven to +P+ pressures ranked in the top 5 followed by all bullets loaded to +P pressures. Rounds manufactured to standard pressure ratings comprised the bottom 12 loadings in the study.

BeyondTheBox 10-15-2012 10:58 PM

Seems to me that the lower velocity the less possibility for over-penetration. Shorter barrels are prone to decreased velocity. Of course everything also depends on shot placement. A through and through can still happen if a bad shot barely hits. Do some testing with penetration and expansion. I just did. Use milk jugs filled with water. I used 4, then put a backstop up to catch round. It simulates about 10" square flesh. Sadly there's no way to account for bone, but it's cool, fun and informative.

canebrake 10-15-2012 11:07 PM

First thing to do is sell the Beretta and get a goose down pillow. NO collateral damage with the pillow!

If you are not ready to extract 10 X the violence beset upon you, just submit!

There is no crying in self defense!

bsdavis4296 10-15-2012 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canebrake
First thing to do is sell the Beretta and get a goose down pillow. NO collateral damage with the pillow!

If you are not ready to extract 10 X the violence beset upon you, just submit!

There is no crying in self defense!

You feel big don't you? I would rather take a bullet myself than disregard the safety of my loved ones, something you clearly haven't considered.

bsdavis4296 10-15-2012 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nosaj
You bought a loaded gun?

Keep the hollow points

I got it from my dad. He used to keep it as a car gun, and just left it loaded for use if needed.

bsdavis4296 10-15-2012 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeyondTheBox
Seems to me that the lower velocity the less possibility for over-penetration. Shorter barrels are prone to decreased velocity. Of course everything also depends on shot placement. A through and through can still happen if a bad shot barely hits. Do some testing with penetration and expansion. I just did. Use milk jugs filled with water. I used 4, then put a backstop up to catch round. It simulates about 10" square flesh. Sadly there's no way to account for bone, but it's cool, fun and informative.

I may have to do this, but it will be a while before I can get to the range. Thanks for the idea.

bsdavis4296 10-15-2012 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guncollector
9mm - This was the first semiauto pistol to be used extensively by police agencies and replaced the 38 Special and 357 Magnum round. Early loadings of the 147 grain round caused major stopping problems however current 147 grain designs are vastly superior. Clearly the best 9mm loads are those driven to +P+ pressures. Of the 20 loadings evaluated, the top load was the Federal 115 grain JHP +P+ involved in 209 shootings with 190 one shot stops for a 91% rating. The Winchester 115 grain JHP +P+ and 127 grain Ranger SXT +P+ both had 90% one shot stops. All five loads driven to +P+ pressures ranked in the top 5 followed by all bullets loaded to +P pressures. Rounds manufactured to standard pressure ratings comprised the bottom 12 loadings in the study.

This is some really nice info. I will buy one of those loads.


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