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Old 11-25-2012, 06:29 PM   #21
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it's even good with those birdshot shells as well. we used one to kill rats in the barn without doing damage to the barn. my father has my grandfathers old H & R 9 shot revolver with the 6" barrel. first revolver i ever shot. and on top of it all, they are pretty accurate as well.

good suggestion BTW.
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Look at the S&W 22a, They usually run about 250 new, have who knows how many rounds through it and it still shoots good.

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they are good guns but over the 150 budjet even used unless you come by a fire sale
Thought he said he could up the budget for a more reliable one.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:32 PM   #24
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nope. that's a tip up or break over action. the one my father has the cylinder swings out like most revolvers. trigger guard is different and the grips are a little slimmer. looks more like this one. i think it's a M922.
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I bought my son a Phoenix Arms HP22 early this year. It was his first gun and I wanted him to learn the semi auto platform.

He has only had a couple FTF, but that was due to crappy Walmart ammo. We use Federal Champions all the time now and not one FTF since.

The great thing about this gun is the barrel is exchangeable, from snub nose to long barrel. He regularly changes out the barrel
in between mags, but likes the longer barrel for target shooting. The only change we made was removing one of the three safeties. Yes three safeties... Trigger safety, flip rack safety, and mag insert safety. We did a YouTube search and followed the mag safety DIY mod. Very easy to do and worth it. We just don't use the flip safety, so we rely on the trigger safety.

A great gun, inexpensive and should last a VERY long time. I would definitely glad I bought this gun and would recommend it as an inexpensive, fun, reliable gun.

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I bought my son a Phoenix Arms HP22 early this year. It was his first gun and I wanted him to learn the semi auto platform.

He has only had a couple FTF, but that was due to crappy Walmart ammo. We use Federal Champions all the time now and not one FTF since.

The great thing about this gun is the barrel is exchangeable, from snub nose to long barrel. He regularly changes out the barrel
in between mags, but likes the longer barrel for target shooting. The only change we made was removing one of the three safeties. Yes three safeties... Trigger safety, flip rack safety, and mag insert safety. We did a YouTube search and followed the mag safety DIY mod. Very easy to do and worth it. We just don't use the flip safety, so we rely on the trigger safety.

A great gun, inexpensive and should last a VERY long time. I would definitely glad I bought this gun and would recommend it as an inexpensive, fun, reliable gun.
Gun is infamous for frame cracks at or around 2500 rounds. That's due to a lack of buffer pad between slide and guide rod. There is an aftermarket pad you can purchase and add. I have and seems to be going strong still. Also, same store, offers a LRHO follower for the mag, which is sorely needed, as the last thing one should do with a rimfire gun is dry fire. This helps to prevent accidental dry firing after last round is ejected. I have one of these also and it works great. If they are out of those there's a second option that's a dummy aluminum round which doesn't leave the mag and takes place of your last round, does the same thing in a different way and reduces capacity by one, but is easiest to install and cheaper.
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The Phoenix hp22. I wanna get my hands on one soooo bad. It is reliable and cheap, but it has a lot of safeties on it. The gun does eventually break down, however, mostly cracking on the slide. But, the company has a lifetime warranty, no questions asked, to replace it. It is probably the best .22 deal altogether.

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The Phoenix hp22. I wanna get my hands on one soooo bad. It is reliable and cheap, but it has a lot of safeties on it. The gun does eventually break down, however, mostly cracking on the slide. But, the company has a lifetime warranty, no questions asked, to replace it. It is probably the best .22 deal altogether.
Their warranty doesn't cover mods like the one described above where the owner altered a key function of the firearm.

They're the most finicky gun I've ever owned. You can't lube the firing pin and spring because the hole that the pin comes thru to strike the primer is gaping and allows for too much powder to enter. That then becomes gunk buildup and prevents from contacting primer solid enough to ignite and fire. This also means you have to be extremely cautious with how much oil you apply to the feed ramp, but you must apply some or the lead against the poor quality Zamak creates a stronger friction than it would were the gun built of steel, which causes jamming issues thru failures to feed and eject/stovepiping.

Answer, I had to learn the hard way, do not lube the firing pin assembly, keep completely dry. Be as sparing as possible with lube on feedramp. Mine has burrs in the Chamber that caught brass and wouldn't let extract so a port&polish is a good idea as well.
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You can pick up a Heritage Rough Rider for under $200.00 I still see them at Cabelas all the time. I would not spend money on a Jennings or a Jimenez. They are both junk. I own a Jennings. If you buy either one you will be pissed at it because they call them Jam-o-matics for a reason.

Keep in mind 22 ammo is really cheap. You can shoot all day for $20. Buy a gun that will work like it is supposed to. Then you will enjoy it.

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Their warranty doesn't cover mods like the one described above where the owner altered a key function of the firearm.

They're the most finicky gun I've ever owned. You can't lube the firing pin and spring because the hole that the pin comes thru to strike the primer is gaping and allows for too much powder to enter. That then becomes gunk buildup and prevents from contacting primer solid enough to ignite and fire. This also means you have to be extremely cautious with how much oil you apply to the feed ramp, but you must apply some or the lead against the poor quality Zamak creates a stronger friction than it would were the gun built of steel, which causes jamming issues thru failures to feed and eject/stovepiping.

Answer, I had to learn the hard way, do not lube the firing pin assembly, keep completely dry. Be as sparing as possible with lube on feedramp. Mine has burrs in the Chamber that caught brass and wouldn't let extract so a port&polish is a good idea as well.
I just wanna get one as a sidearm/target gun. My current .22 handgun is pretty much a POS. I can only use certain rounds in it to keep it from jamming every shot. Would the Phoenix hp22 be worth the price and the effort needed to clean out the burrs and fix any other issues?
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