[bountyhunter]

Originally Posted by cals400ex

i am new to this scene and i wasn't sure the benefit of a da over a da/sa? any help would be appreciated.

For a defense weapon, DA (only) makes a lot of sense. Every trigger pull will have the same long, heavy pull. IMHO, it's dangerous to have a defense weapon where the first trigger pull is heavy/long and the follow up pulls are very short and light. Under stress, that's an invitation for an AD.

[knfxda]

Originally Posted by cals400ex

i am a novice and the gun probably won't get much use. i was looking really closely at the sig 226 and the cz 75. on a da/sa gun, you can manually cock it, correct? if so, this would avoid two different trigger pulls. also, i don't understand what a decocker is??

A decocker is a lever on some da/sa guns that allows you to safely drop the hammer while a round us in the chamber without firing the gun. This would return you to DA mode because the round would be chambered and the hammer would be down requiring the longer trigger pull that pulls back and drops the hammer.

With a da/sa gun, one method of training would be to fire one DA shot followed be one or two SA shots, then decock the gun and repeat the process. This is to train you on the transition from DA to SA.

Personally, I think the whole two different trigger pull "disadvantage" of a DA/SA is a lot of bunk. When people float a shot with a DA/SA it's the first shot - the DA shot, not any of the SA shots. So how can all DA shots be an advantage? The long hard trigger pull is the problem for new shooters and what induces bad trigger pulls. So more if them (DAO) isn't better!

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[BigByrd47119]

Originally Posted by bountyhunter

For a defense weapon, DA (only) makes a lot of sense. Every trigger pull will have the same long, heavy pull. IMHO, it's dangerous to have a defense weapon where the first trigger pull is heavy/long and the follow up pulls are very short and light. Under stress, that's an invitation for an AD.

Interesting perspective. I'm not sure I entirely agree, but interesting. A good DA/SA should have a DA pull equal to that of a good DAO revolver. If you pulled the trigger the first time, thus putting it into SA, then I don't see much reason to fear a AD.

Just my .02

[JonM]

you ought to check the springfield xdm out no manual safety just rack the slide to charge each shot is controlled by a decent weight easy to use trigger pull. consistant accuracy. easy very easy to use for a new shooter. keep your finger out of the trigger guard unless you need to shoot. the grip safety ensures you have to have a proper grip for it to go off.


my wife is really new to handguns and she grasped it right off. she is pretty good with a xdm.

ive been a 1911 shooter for 20+ years and i realllly like the ease of use of the xdm. its about as close as you can get to a 1911 without it being one

[MrWray]

Originally Posted by BigByrd47119

Interesting perspective. I'm not sure I entirely agree, but interesting. A good DA/SA should have a DA pull equal to that of a good DAO revolver. If you pulled the trigger the first time, thus putting it into SA, then I don't see much reason to fear a AD.

Just my .02

Talking about double action and revolvers, i handled and felt the trigger pull on a colt python.. Tht thing was as smooth as butter.. If all double actions felt like that it wouldnt be a problem

[bountyhunter]

Originally Posted by BigByrd47119

Interesting perspective. I'm not sure I entirely agree, but interesting. A good DA/SA should have a DA pull equal to that of a good DAO revolver. If you pulled the trigger the first time, thus putting it into SA, then I don't see much reason to fear a AD.

Just my .02

It's because the second pulls are so short and the trigger finger is "searching" for the trigger because it has moved significantly rearward from the first position. IMHO, this is the reason so many LE's carrying Berettas will swear they fired once and they find out it was three or four times.

[BigByrd47119]

Originally Posted by MrWray

Talking about double action and revolvers, i handled and felt the trigger pull on a colt python.. Tht thing was as smooth as butter.. If all double actions felt like that it wouldnt be a problem

A buddy of mine, working as a local Sheriffs Deputy, carries a Sig as his duty weapon (don't recall the model). Its also a DA/SA and man, that DA is near enough to perfection for me. Never had an opportunity to handle a Colt Python, but if its anything like this Sig, its a keeper .

[bountyhunter]

Originally Posted by MrWray

Talking about double action and revolvers, i handled and felt the trigger pull on a colt python.. Tht thing was as smooth as butter.. If all double actions felt like that it wouldnt be a problem

I can tune the trigger pull of a SW revolver to be as good. That's what I recommend for a defense gun. Consistent 8# trigger pull every time, smooth as glass.

[BigByrd47119]

Originally Posted by bountyhunter

It's because the second pulls are so short and the trigger finger is "searching" for the trigger because it has moved significantly rearward from the first position. IMHO, this is the reason so many LE's carrying Berettas will swear they fired once and they find out it was three or four times.

Point taken.

[bountyhunter]

Originally Posted by JonM

you ought to check the springfield xdm out no manual safety just rack the slide to charge each shot is controlled by a decent weight easy to use trigger pull. consistant accuracy. easy very easy to use for a new shooter. keep your finger out of the trigger guard unless you need to shoot. the grip safety ensures you have to have a proper grip for it to go off.


my wife is really new to handguns and she grasped it right off. she is pretty good with a xdm.

ive been a 1911 shooter for 20+ years and i realllly like the ease of use of the xdm. its about as close as you can get to a 1911 without it being one

The XD is a very good design and Springer Precision sells sears and trigger parts that can make the trigger very good. It's the best striker fired defense gun, very good choice for a new shooter.