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Bear Country Hiking - revolver or semi-auto handgun?


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Semi-auto handgun 6 13.04%
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:40 PM   #21
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Ok,,,,,,,,,,,,You have a bear charging at you 40 feet away and he or she is running at you at 35 mph. How fast can you draw and place one shot in the brain. Most bears killed in Alaska by hand guns were either hunted or the bear was posing a threat and not charging the shooter.........That new pepper spray is suppose to be better that a pistol. The bear depends on his nose to survive, once it inhales that stuff, its lights out and instant pain............Do we have any volunteers to find out what works best...........
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Ok,,,,,,,,,,,,You have a bear charging at you 40 feet away and he or she is running at you at 35 mph. How fast can you draw and place one shot in the brain. Most bears killed in Alaska by hand guns were either hunted or the bear was posing a threat and not charging the shooter.........That new pepper spray is suppose to be better that a pistol. The bear depends on his nose to survive, once it inhales that stuff, its lights out and instant pain............Do we have any volunteers to find out what works best...........
I guess I can sneak into a zoo. The German brown bear only exists on the bordering Alps to Austria. I have seen them at wild parks. They are not as big as their American cousins. They can still kill with one swipe of their paws though. Ouch!
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I guess I can sneak into a zoo....
Be careful; they watch for that nowadays.
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The only auto I would be wanting to use against a bear would be a Desert Eagle in 44 mag! Other than that it is revolver all the way. I would not carry smaller than 44 mag in the woods if there are bears of any kind in the area.
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Walking in the woods anywhere on the coastal rain forest areas of Alaska, from Anchorage all the way down to the SouthEast arm, is pretty much like this. If a bear decides to attack you, how much time would you have to get to your handgun or Pepper condiment?
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Whatever you can stick in your mouth the fastest, for 99+% of people. :-) Very, very few people have the needed "coolness' and skill to even have a chance against a bear, unless they see him from 100 yds away (or further, in open country, and they have an autoloading 308 rifle, or some such armament, and know to try repeatedly and swiftly for a brain hit.

Black bears rarely charge in rage/fear, the way grizzlies do, because their cubs can climb trees, while grizz cubs cannot. Black bears have been known to stalk and eat people, and since they are far more common than grizzes, bear watching (no pun intended). Bears often attack at night, so what will you have in your sleeping bag with you? :-) Other sorts of attacks, especially in thick woods, are highly likely to mean that the only 'chance" you get is to shove the muzzle of your pistol up under his chin as he mauls you.

But even black bear attacks, vs humans, are so rare as to be silly to worry about. I certainly wouldnt buy, much less carry, anything "special" for bears. Even in 'bear country", men are the more common and more dangerous attacker of humans. So it's a bad bet to carry something that is less effective against men than what you would normally edc.

U have to know critters, and you have to know your abilities, too. bears hit 35mph, which is 50 fps. they also attain top speed in about 1/2 second, from a standing start. Most men need 2 full seconds to react to a start signal, raise a rifle that they are holding at port arms, and hit the 6" brain circle at a mere 20 ft. The same is true with a pistol held at "low ready", for most men, at 10 ft, actually. A very few men can do one or the other (handgun or rifle) in 1.0 second flat, but men who can do that 1 second thing, reliably, with both gun types are scarce as hen's teeth.

For the great majority of people, if they are to have any chance at all, it would be with a 12 ga autoloader, with 3" mags and 000 buckshot, don't fire at more than 25 ft, and don't expect to get off more than 1-2 shots. Sorry, but them's the facts. An unprovoked bear attack is as rare as being hit by lightning. It does happen, but usually it's your own silly fault. By this I mean taking your dog with you into bear areas. Bears hate dogs. Beware of dead animal carcasses, berry thickets (when they are ripe) garbage dumps, salmon streams, etc. Places where bears are likely to be (and likely to feel that they must defend).

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Perhaps they should market packets of cyanide to be sure the killer bear of the day dies after mauling/eating the hiker? That sounds like a good backup plan to a loaded 12 guage and some barbed wire boxers.


The only responsible solution is to eliminate free-ranging bears. Helicopter hunts, poisoning, aerial defoliation of crucial habitat areas, winter/hibernation search and destroy initiatives, bounties, and a media assassination similar to that of Mr. Zimmerman would seem to be reasonable steps.
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Walking in the woods anywhere on the coastal rain forest areas of Alaska, from Anchorage all the way down to the SouthEast arm, is pretty much like this. If a bear decides to attack you, how much time would you have to get to your handgun or Pepper condiment?
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I would carry my Mossy 590 Mariner in that environment.
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Oh, the area is very pretty!
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Oh, the area is very pretty!
You should see the view from up top:
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