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Old 01-05-2012, 11:43 PM   #1
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Default Ballistics as Viewed in a Morgue

This is interesting....

Terminal ballistics as viewed in a morgue

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Old 01-05-2012, 11:50 PM   #2
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That was a good enough read I had to save it to review it again later. Thank you for the link.

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About 8 paragraphs in, I have bookmarked it for later reading. Thanks for sharing this !

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I just had to read this out to my wife. She's in total shock as we don't live far from Atlanta. Definately an eye opener.

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Long article. What's the jist of it?
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Very good read will read again when I get a chance to get on my laptop.

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Long article. What's the jist of it?
I read this about a year ago and haven't re-read it. If I remember, he's a retired LEO now working in his retirement years in a Medical Examiner Unit in Atlanta. He discusses, in laymans terms, his observations of the effects of various calibers on deceased victims as a morgue employee. He draws various conclusions on effectiveness of common ammunition. It's not real technical, there are tons of those articles concerning ballistics...I liked it because it's real life observations, something you don't hear often.

Just wanted to add why I remembered the article; I had just bought my SIG P229 in .40SW. I had researched the .40 extensively before I bought it. Time after time the .40 would get slammed with the 'Short and Weak' (SW) business. I purchased it anyway. I then stumbled on the link I posted and he explains that he thinks the .40 is a decent, effective round. Which made me feel pretty good about it
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I found that site quite a while ago and found it interesting as well. While there are a lot of articles and writings on various aspects of ballistics, it is rather uncommon to find any research on the actually effectiveness of bullets beyond gel tests. While the information is not presented in scientific terms, and is somewhat limited in the number of circumstances being discussed, it is still very valuable.

We seem to have a lot of posts here asking for advice on caliber and bullet selection both. Everyone is certainly welcome to their own opinion, and I do indeed have one as well. I think that what is brought to light in this article is that shot placement is first and foremost in importance, and that caliber and bullet type are much less of a concern than many would like to think. All that being said, it cannot be argued that a large hole in vital organs will almost always get the job done. Whether you are talking about four legged critters or two, big holes let lots of blood out and lots of air in. There is always a balance to be struck between caliber, velocity, expansion, penetration and a host of other factors. My experience on game animals (with handguns) is that bigger is gooder. Large diameter, heavy bullets at moderate velocity, when placed properly, have never failed me. I think the same is true when talking about defensive ammo. Velocity is fine, as is expansion, but the bullet must penetrate deep enough to reach vital organs and be of adequate size to do substantial damage to tissue.

Another poster made mention of people referring to the .40 S&W as the .40 short and weak. Most of us that pick on the forty do so more in jest than anything, and mean no real harm to anyone's (overly)sensitive feelings. While I do prefer the 10mm over the .40, this is not to speak poorly of the cartridge. The .40S&W has proven itself to be a fine cartridge for the intended purpose over a fairly significant time period. It is however shorter and weaker than true full power 10mm loads, thus the nickname. I have nothing against the forty, I'm just don't think that it has any particular advantage over other cartridges that I prefer. There is always a trade off between various elements, and the .40 fits well into the re that is was created for. It is a medium bore, moderate velocity cartridge that can be put into a reasonably small package. There is nothing "wrong" with any of that.

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Nice article, but I question the part about looking at an x-ray and counting the hits. One bullet means 40 or 45, multiple mean 380 or 9mm. I don't care if you are carrying a 44 mag, if you are threatened to the point of requiring lethal force you better be putting more than one round in your target. No gun gives a guaranteed one shot kill every single time. Especially if the guy is a practitioner of modern chemistry.

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Nice article, but I question the part about looking at an x-ray and counting the hits. One bullet means 40 or 45, multiple mean 380 or 9mm. I don't care if you are carrying a 44 mag, if you are threatened to the point of requiring lethal force you better be putting more than one round in your target. No gun gives a guaranteed one shot kill every single time. Especially if the guy is a practitioner of modern chemistry.
I think a .50 BMG to the grape might challenge that theory...
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