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Old 07-31-2014, 09:14 AM   #221
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maybe this will put the issue to rest. i t looks like the US Army is renewing their contract with Beretta for five more years and additional M9's.

i would hardly think they would be renewing a contract with a current supplier if they were looking at replacing what they were getting from that supplier and going to a different caliber. that hardly make any sense.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/07/30/us-army-buys-beretta-m9-pistols/
maybe,..maybe not. They Might need replacements for 30+ Y.O. frames that Can't be repaired...
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:20 AM   #222
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maybe,..maybe not. They Might need replacements for 30+ Y.O. frames that Can't be repaired...
another article i read said their last large order was in 2006 or 2007 for about 70,000 M9's.

i am sure that will probably be addressed at some point with additional orders as needed.
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:40 PM   #223
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maybe this will put the issue to rest. i t looks like the US Army is renewing their contract with Beretta for five more years and additional M9's.

i would hardly think they would be renewing a contract with a current supplier if they were looking at replacing what they were getting from that supplier and going to a different caliber. that hardly make any sense.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/07/30/us-army-buys-beretta-m9-pistols/
They still have to get through the testing phases of selecting a new handgun,and giving a company enough time to produce the quantity of handguns they will need to out fit the army.
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I know a guy that hauls brush regularly in his pick-up.
He piles it on until it is about three feet deep, then climbs into the bed with a chain saw and 'stirs' the brush with the saw until it sinks down, then piles more in and repeats the 'stirring' until the bed is packed full.

He has done this for a long time: He is very experienced.
He is an idiot, and undoubtedly will - sooner or later - cut into the bed of the truck, or into his own foot.

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WOW, that is all kinds of dumb right there!^^^
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If they used hollow point .357s a hit would take off an arm, or most of a leg of center of mass most of the organs. You will go down now. You won't survive usually.
The Army does have to think about that pesky Geneva Convention so hollow points are right out.
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The Army does have to think about that pesky Geneva Convention so hollow points are right out.
The US wasn't part of the Hague Convention. Legally the US could use hollow points. However, since all nations obey that convention, any US soldier captured with hollow points would probably be shot through the head with one.
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For the arguments about Glock I will offer some questions.

What is considered a light enough pull or short enough pull to qualify for non-deliberate firing?

The 1911 has a darned short trigger travel, and reset, as well as pull compared to a Glock. I also find grip safeties useless in preventing self inflicted gunshot wounds while drawing or holstering as the web of the hand has already inactivated that safety during those operations. Seen manual safeties swept off accidentally or seen plungers and detent worn to the point that keeping the safety on was not a sure thing. Seen folks forget to activate safeties.

Been around a lot of guns. The two self inflicted leg shots I've seen as patients were from 1911s. Haven't treated any glock victims unless they were shot intentionally by someone else.
A heavier trigger is not safer than a lighter trigger. It is just an excuse for piss poor gun handling. Keep your finger out of the trigger guard when you are not pulling the trigger!
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Hahaha. Well said. 👍


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