[robocop10mm]

Definately find a gun that fits your hand. Fit is a personal issue that only you can decide on. Glock, Smith & Wesson M&P, Beretta, Sig, Springfield Armory XD all are quality firearms that will serve you well. Find the one that fits and shoot the heck out of it. You will not wear it out.

[robocop10mm]

Originally Posted by thatguy510

Xdms are great weapons. But, as a primary weapon I don't recommend any compensated pistols. It makes it wry difficult in a self defense situation at night. They are great as a range gun but not as a primary carry weapon. Just my 2cents.

Not true at all. With high quality defense ammo. Good carry ammo has triple based, flame retardant powder that does not generate more than a glow from the ports. General purpose range ammo will give massive flash that can interfere with night vision. Try the good stuff at night and you will be surprised

[Sicilian13]

Thanks everyone...but It will not be a carry just home defense and shooting range which I have been going 2 times a month.. I all ready own a smith and wesson mp15 22 lr and mossberg 500 & a high point 9mm carbine...my brother and best friend are both cops so they can help with the training...I was thinking about the glock or smith and wesson I have shot both and both fit good in hand one more thing I would like to be in the $500 to $600 range

[thatguy510]

Glock 23 would be my first choice in your situation. It's a .40 and you can pick you up for about $500 and sometimes less if you shop around. Plus if you ever decide to carry, it makes a really good concealment weapon. Also, I have dealt with glock customer service and they are awesome. If you like the feel, you can't go wrong.

[Oblivion9]

Not sure I would recommend glock as first pistol. They are the least safe semi auto. They are great guns...but for first time buyers they should be thinking safety first.

XD is basically a mire ergonomic glock with an additional grip safety.

[dvcguns]

"This here is my safety sir..."

If the gun doesn't go band without pulling the trigger than it is as safe as any gun. Training is what makes the shooter safe. Trying to idiot proof a gun is ludicrous at best.

[thatguy510]

Originally Posted by Oblivion9

Not sure I would recommend glock as first pistol. They are the least safe semi auto. They are great guns...but for first time buyers they should be thinking safety first.

XD is basically a mire ergonomic glock with an additional grip safety.

I disagree. My first pistol was a glock 23. You are correct that the xd line has a grip safety but the glock has a drop safety which basically does the same thing meaning that the weapon will not go off until you grip it and pull the trigger. I own both and there is nothing about the xd line that truly makes it safer than a glock. With either weapon, and any weapon, it comes down to learning proper safety.

[Bear304inc]

Originally Posted by thatguy510

I disagree. My first pistol was a glock 23. You are correct that the xd line has a grip safety but the glock has a drop safety which basically does the same thing meaning that the weapon will not go off until you grip it and pull the trigger. I own both and there is nothing about the xd line that truly makes it safer than a glock. With either weapon, and any weapon, it comes down to learning proper safety.

I've never heard of "xd leg",, I have however heard many times the( so often) its coined the phrase " glock leg "..............

[Bear304inc]

Originally Posted by Bear304inc

I've never heard of "xd leg",, I have however heard many times the( so often) its coined the phrase " glock leg "..............

Google xd leg, you get thigh holsters,, google glock leg, you get something completely different.

[Werminator]

I would also like to state that the ruger sr9 is a nice 9mm option. I have put several thousand rounds through mine without a hiccup ... also really enjoy the options offered from FN Herstal...