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Old 05-01-2013, 10:51 PM   #21
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I have carried
.45acp
.357 mag
.38 spec
9MM

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Those are the pistol calibers I've carried most of my life, most of the time a Government Model Colt .45ACP. But today I like .40S&W in the Glock 23. It's large caliber yet fairly controllable. And 13-15rd magazines vs. half that for a .45 single stack. I do have a 9mm conversion barrel to make practice cheaper and easier on my old wrists. All in all, .40 is a nice compromise.


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If you compare identical bullet weights in the 40 and 45 you will find that the ballistics are nearly identical. The 40 gives you more rounds and the 45 has heavier bullets available.



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If he was doing more than trying to show off he could have taken two hogs with one shot (308 180 gr sp), but no, he had to add drama to the hog problem!!! A 22 LR solid in the ear would have had the same effect as the 40 to the ear.
The only good hog is a dead hog!

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When you look at 9mm in light of 45acp or 40S&W, there definitely seems to be a difference that is significant.

Though, perhaps you've heard this story:

Person #1 interested in a CCW carrier asks this question: "Why are you carrying a gun? Are you expecting trouble?"

Person #2 answers: "If I were expecting trouble, I'd have brought a rifle."

Compare the whole lot of pistol calibers (that can actually be carried) from 10mm down and the numbers don't mean a hill of beans as compared to 5.56x45mm, 7.62x39mm, or 7.62x51mm. There is such drivel written about handgun calibers and power.

Pick a handgun you like to look at--and can shoot when the balloon goes up--and pray that the good guy comes out on top.

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When you look at 9mm in light of 45acp or 40S&W, there definitely seems to be a difference that is significant.

Though, perhaps you've heard this story:

Person #1 interested in a CCW carrier asks this question: "Why are you carrying a gun? Are you expecting trouble?"

Person #2 answers: "If I were expecting trouble, I'd have brought a rifle."

Compare the whole lot of pistol calibers (that can actually be carried) from 10mm down and the numbers don't mean a hill of beans as compared to 5.56x45mm, 7.62x39mm, or 7.62x51mm. There is such drivel written about handgun calibers and power.

Pick a handgun you like to look at--and can shoot when the balloon goes up--and pray that the good guy comes out on top.
My answer is a little different.
If you are 'expecting' trouble all the time you are paranoid and thus mentally ill!
However, if you do not expect trouble but are adequately prepared when it happens your are a responsible person!!!
Just say'n!!!
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In essence, I agree with the OP.

And, let's face it, we're all

after a rifle for a go to, in

the event of real trouble.

What I have to wonder about is how many

folks who argue so hard about calibers actually

can shoot well enough, and take care of their

firearms well enough, for something as minor as

caliber differences to truly matter?

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In essence, I agree with the OP.

And, let's face it, we're all

after a rifle for a go to, in

the event of real trouble.

What I have to wonder about is how many

folks who argue so hard about calibers actually

can shoot well enough, and take care of their

firearms well enough, for something as minor as

caliber differences to truly matter?
Very true, what you say, especially how many get hung up in the details.
But you use the term 'real trouble' which is a VERY broad term. When any one (or more) people are trying to kill or injure others is real trouble to me. It can be one on one or a 'war'.
If I expect 'real trouble', or as the say am 'going in harms way', I would want an adequate long gun as well as my hand gun. But fortunately 'our' world has not reached that level yet!
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When you look at 9mm in light of 45acp or 40S&W, there definitely seems to be a difference that is significant.

Though, perhaps you've heard this story:

Person #1 interested in a CCW carrier asks this question: "Why are you carrying a gun? Are you expecting trouble?"

Person #2 answers: "If I were expecting trouble, I'd have brought a rifle."

Compare the whole lot of pistol calibers (that can actually be carried) from 10mm down and the numbers don't mean a hill of beans as compared to 5.56x45mm, 7.62x39mm, or 7.62x51mm. There is such drivel written about handgun calibers and power.

Pick a handgun you like to look at--and can shoot when the balloon goes up--and pray that the good guy comes out on top.
With the best ammo available today there is so little difference it is not worth mentioning when talking handguns and self defense.
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Just a personal observation here, not statistics.

IME in LE the younger officers tended to favor the .45. (when allowed)

The older, more experienced officers tended to favor 9mm or .40

"Back in the day" when cowboy guns were required, most "uniforms" carried .357 with 4 or 6 inch barrel. I carried a 6 inch.

In the detective bureau, the younger detectives usually carried medium frame .357 magnums. Older detectives usually carried small frame .,38 special.

This doesn't prove anything, just a personal observation.



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